The problem of White Supremacy - Spinoff from Buffalo Shooting thread (1 Viewer)

[Sun Wukong]

Racists puzzle me. You just have to marvel at the perverse mental gymnastics they pull off.
It’s almost hilarious that believers in white supremacy are the first to deny white privilege
Bonkers

People will engage in tribalism over the wildest, most petty sheet. Race just provides the easiest visual short hand.

 

[Geldo]

People will engage in tribalism over the wildest, most petty sheet. Race just provides the easiest visual short hand.

You’re absolutely right. They carried out an experiment in the UK to see whether a football fan would help someone wearing the shirt of a rival club if they fell over and appeared hurt. The majority walked past and didn’t.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

People will engage in tribalism over the wildest, most petty sheet. Race just provides the easiest visual short hand.

crazy thing is, My wifes uncle (now passed away) was one of the most racists people i knew, he truly thought white people were superior, (which honestly is a little different than just being plain racist) but he would give the shirt off his back to help anyone regardless of color.

 

[saintmdterps]

You’re absolutely right. They carried out an experiment in the UK to see whether a football fan would help someone wearing the shirt of a rival club if they fell over and appeared hurt. The majority walked past and didn’t.

What football team was it? Their indifference may be understandable

 

[saintmdterps]

crazy thing is, My wifes uncle (now passed away) was one of the most racists people i knew, he truly thought white people were superior, (which honestly is a little different than just being plain racist) but he would give the shirt off his back to help anyone regardless of color.

Helping someone of color makes him feel superior?

 

[Geldo]

What football team was it? Their indifference may be understandable

Liverpool (my team) and Man Utd. No surprise at the bad vibes lol

 

[Geldo]

Helping someone of color makes him feel superior?

I’ve seen this phenomena a lot. I honestly think it’s the contrast between personal racism which is the most vicious and violent and institutional racism where people are indoctrinated by friends., the media., prevailing attitudes.
Institutional racism is horrible but it can be overcome, often by friendship, personal experience and community spirit Personal racism is the motivator of the lynchmob

I was lucky I grew up on a small island just off Africa where we shared a house with a West Indian family for the first 6 months. Lived for years in the Caribbean. Race seemed so unimportant to us it was all about the content of someone’s character and their kindness. Many people are not so lucky

 

[St. Widge]

Helping someone of color makes him feel superior?

I suspect it could be the whole "White Man's Burden" thing. He felt a moral obligation to help those that he saw as lesser.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

Helping someone of color makes him feel superior?

no . he truly believed he was better than other races solely on the fact that he was white.
trying to explain this correctly, let's see....
he'd help you if you were in need, but you wouldn't be allowed at the dinner table..

a couple years after were married, we were at his house to watch an LSU game. he was telling a story (forget what it was about) and he said "what did they think i was, one of those f'n Puerto Rican"?.. (my mom is from PR) I just bit down on my tounge, deciding if i was gonna say something, but my MIL stepped in and said, you know he's half PR, the look in his eyes was priceless. he apologized and i never heard him say anything like that again, although he still constantly used the "because they are black" when describing why someone did whatever..
but he was a salesman and he knew how to keep it tucked away when he needed to..

 

[Optimus Prime]

We got a problem at Sesame Place

The Sesame Place Controversy, Explained

One family has filed a $25 million class action lawsuit over “pervasive and appalling race discrimination” at Sesame Place.

www.glamour.com

A video from a dance competition in Hartford last week has gone viral. The video shows a dance coach hugging a group of dancers after accepting an award, but not hugging the one Black student in the group.

The dance studio is called Dance Xpressions and is located in Plainville.

Melissa Breglia is the mother of 6-year-old Shaniah, the dancer who was left out of the hug.

“[The coach] gave everybody else a hug except for Shaniah,” Breglia said. “Shaniah came up to me, and said, mommy, how come [the coach] didn’t give me a hug? She hugged everybody else. She said, 'mommy, I did all my moves, I smiled the whole time…and I didn’t get a hug, but they did.'”

Breglia said she approached the dance coach in a dressing room after the incident.

“I went up to [her] and said, 'how dare you? How dare you make my child feel less than?' She instantly stiffened up and said, 'I didn’t do anything, why are you yelling at me?' I said, 'you had her standing on the stage alone. She leaned in to hug you, and you side stepped her.' She said, 'I didn’t do that. I didn’t do anything to her.'”

After the competition, Breglia said she worried she had overreacted, until another audience member sent her a video of the interaction on stage.

Breglia posted it to her TikTok, and it has been viewed more than four million times.

“Afterwards I really thought that I was overreacting in what I saw, until I saw the video and realized everything I’m feeling is valid, and everything my daughter is feeling is valid,” Breglia said.

The dance studio now has dozens of negative reviews on Yelp from people all over the country. Their social media accounts can no longer be found, and their phone’s voicemail was full when NBC Connecticut attempted to reach them.

Breglia said her daughters were removed from the program.

“I got a letter…dismissing my child, my children, from the program. That I had been aggressive with staff,” she said. “At no point in time was there a conversation about your actions, an apology towards my daughter, there was no acknowledgement that anything was wrong.”……..

https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news...ut-hug-dance-competition-in-hartford/3533984/

 

[Optimus Prime]

Why would innocent people feel guilty?

When I learned about redlining, the Tulsa massacre, numerous ways white mistreated slaves, etc I didn't feel guilty at all. I felt angry, sad, appalled, disgusted but not for one second did I feel guilty.

Slavery, Tulsa, Redlining all long ago events you had nothing to do with

But what about more recent events that from a certain point of view you were involved with or benefited from?

You get in a fight in school no big deal, ‘you get a few days of detention

The black kid gets in a fight in the same school and gets suspended or expelled or sent to the school for ‘troubled kids'

A cop pulls you over for going 20 MPH over the speed limit lets you off with a warning.

Same cop an hour later gives a black driver an expensive speeding ticket (for going 20mph or less over the limit)

Your Dad's great new job? The black woman who was at least as qualified didn't even get an interview

The great new house you moved into because of your dad's great new job? The better qualified Hispanic family had their home loan turned down

Would you feel guilty learning about any of these situations?

You also had nothing personally do with the decisions but definitely directly benefited from the decisions (consciously or not) made by others

I'm sure you wouldn't wish to get expelled or get the speeding ticket you'd wish that the black kid wasn't

But what about the job and the house?

Your dad loves the new job, you love the new house, the new neighborhood, your new friends and new school

Would you feel guilty finding out you probably shouldn’t have gotten it?

If you had the power to back and change then would you? Would you feel guilty knowing that answer would be no?

No one wants to admit or recognize that as non racist/sexist as they may be personally they still benefit from the racism or sexism of others in ways big and small and ways that can change a person’s life or family’s trajectory for generations

Using the 'royal' you. not directed to you personally

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[saintmdterps]

And yet the 761st tank battalion, the original Black Panthers, received (belatedly) a Presidential Unit Citation for combat valor around Bastogne during the battle of the Bulge, with one of its soldiers, Ruben Rivers, being awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.

There are many others. Dorie Miller was awarded the Navy Cross for heroism during Pearl Harbor, and will have a Ford-class carrier named for him.

Man, sometimes **** on this country. These events are not ancient history and the wounds from tearing the USA away from its hateful segregation still run deep.

 

[Optimus Prime]

And yet the 761st tank battalion, the original Black Panthers, received (belatedly) a Presidential Unit Citation for combat valor around Bastogne during the battle of the Bulge, with one of its soldiers, Ruben Rivers, being awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.

There are many others. Dorie Miller was awarded the Navy Cross for heroism during Pearl Harbor, and will have a Ford-class carrier named for him.

Man, sometimes **** on this country. These events are not ancient history and the wounds from tearing the USA away from its hateful segregation still run deep.

And don’t want people to even learn about it much less do anything to make amends for it