League insiders tells Tony Pauline that Aaron Glenn will end up being Saints Head Coach [Edit: Underhill says no decision is close to being made] (4 Viewers)

[DerrickB]

I guess Loomis thinks "we're still close."

 

[Saintcd]

Why do you think Glenn would be a yes man to Loomis?

Because if Glenn is willing to abide by keeping who loomis wants, he’ll already handicap himself when putting his vision and plan together for the team.

Hiring him will be worse than hiring Allen. A second continuation of maintaining continuity so that loomis can keep a now abysmal culture together. I’d rather his go to the jets and be successful and build the the team his way than come here and follow orders.

 

[AARPSaint]

Isn’t it normal for a Head Coach to hire his own staff? That wouldn’t exclude retaining current coaches.

 

[Judge_Smails]

Hopefully this Tony Pauline guy is just clickbaiting us. If not, then it appears Loomis is set on destroying any chance of a new, winning culture being developed. Mickey should just keep Rizzi if he wants to be the guy forcing his HC to hire/keep certain assistants.

And honestly, there is not ONE single Saints coach from this year that did/accomplished anything to warrant being guaranteed a job with a new HC, whether that HC really wants them or not.

And finally, if Glenn or any candidate is willing to allow the Saints 70 year old, bean counter GM to demand he retain certain coaches, then I do not want to see that person get hired.

Mickey and the whole organization seem to have jumped the shark in the worst possible way.

 

[St. Widge]

Because if Glenn is willing to abide by keeping who loomis wants, he’ll already handicap himself when putting his vision and plan together for the team.

Hiring him will be worse than hiring Allen. A second continuation of maintaining continuity so that loomis can keep a now abysmal culture together. I’d rather his go to the jets and be successful and build the the team his way than come here and follow orders.

All we have is some rumor based on what a guy I have never heard of "heard" from NFL "insiders". We have no idea if it's true or not. I agree that if it's true it's concerning, but we have no idea if it is true.

People just want it to be true because it would confirm what they want to believe is true about Loomis. And maybe it is true, but I'm going to need a better source that this before I believe it.

 

[MatthewV]

Aaron talking yesterday about the attack in NOLA before talking about the Lions.

I think we should be fair to the man -- just because he coached with the Saints at one point doesn't make him automatically more of a yes man than Sean Payton or anyone else is.

The guy is a very accomplished professional. He deserves a fair shake, and besides this story is unsourced speculation

 

[St. Widge]

Hopefully this Tony Pauline guy is just clickbaiting us. If not, then it appears Loomis is set on destroying any chance of a new, winning culture being developed. Mickey should just keep Rizzi if he wants to be the guy forcing his HC to hire/keep certain assistants.

And honestly, there is not ONE single Saints coach from this year that did/accomplished anything to warrant being guaranteed a job with a new HC, whether that HC really wants them or not.

And finally, if Glenn or any candidate is willing to allow the Saints 70 year old, bean counter GM to demand he retain certain coaches, then I do not want to see that person get hired.

Mickey and the whole organization seem to have jumped the shark in the worst possible way.

Frankly, the fact that he could keep Rizzi and likely keep as many coaches as he wants, is one of the reasons I tend to doubt this report. If Loomis is really all about "continuity" and keeping a bunch of coaches, why not just retain Rizzi?

 

[Judge_Smails]

Frankly, the fact that he could keep Rizzi and likely keep as many coaches as he wants, is one of the reasons I tend to doubt this report. If Loomis is really all about "continuity" and keeping a bunch of coaches, why not just retain Rizzi?

No doubt. I think the report itself is spurious, but if true then Loomis needs to be sacrificed to the volcano.

 

[St. Widge]

No doubt. I think the report itself is spurious, but if true then Loomis needs to be sacrificed to the volcano.

Nodoubt. If Loomis is telling HC candidates who has to be on their staff then Mrs. Benson needs to fire him today. Hopefully it's not true and I have some hope given the source.

 

[Steve in Colorado]

Aaron talking yesterday about the attack in NOLA before talking about the Lions.

I think we should be fair to the man -- just because he coached with the Saints at one point doesn't make him automatically more of a yes man than Sean Payton or anyone else is.

The guy is a very accomplished professional. He deserves a fair shake, and besides this story is unsourced speculation

Just because he acknowledges what happened in New Orleans doesn't make him the right hire for head coach here. I agree that he has credentials, even though I'm personally not impressed by them, either here as DB coach or in Detroit. Sure, he seems like a standup guy, but he's a terrible fit here -- especially as long as Loomis continues to wield any kind of influence over personnel or hiring staff. That doesn't mean I think Glenn a 'yes man', but I do think he'd allow Loomis to continue the false and destructive narrative that the team is 'close'.

Additionally, I believe many of the same schemes that have doomed this team lately on defense will remain. His defenses in Detroit -- even without injuries -- have been average to slightly above average. There is nothing new he brings here. Just because he works with Dan Campbell, doesn't mean he is anything like Dan Campbell from a culture perspective. I mean, is he going to bring Brad Holmes with him?

I continue to believe Glenn is best suited to the Jets or another team, because he'll get a clean slate there, without the baggage of Loomis and the Payton era.

 

[Booker]

Why do you think Glenn would be a yes man to Loomis?

How so? What about Glenn suggests to you that he's a yes man?

Well, if this report is true (not that it should be given any credibility), then it shows part of why he's being considered is because he'd give deference to Loomis, which would blatantly make him a yes man.

But even if the report isn't true (and let's hope it's not), it would be Loomis settling on another insular hire of a guy whose biggest asset seems to be that he was recently with the franchise, suggesting that, like Allen, he's someone Loomis feels he'd be able to control or that otherwise won't give him any push back -- i.e., a yes man.

 

[Goatman Saint]

This is garbage. If Loomis and the saints leaked it it would be tampering 101. They aren’t that dumb. If Glen said it, then I seriously wonder at him and his independence and power as a head coach and would scratch him off. Now if the report was that he is open to keeping some of the coaches on the staff then that changes, because I’m sure there are some good coaches there. But as that’s written, nope

 

[St. Widge]

Isn’t it normal for a Head Coach to hire his own staff? That wouldn’t exclude retaining current coaches.

Yes. In fact, I think new HCs often keep a guy or two from the old staff either because he knows the players/organization and can be a valuable resource. But the issue here is if Loomis is telling the new HC that they have to keep certain coaches.

I'm not sure who Loomis would be dead set on keeping, but whoever it is, the new HC should decide if he stays.

 

[Judge_Smails]

Nodoubt. If Loomis is telling HC candidates who has to be on their staff then Mrs. Benson needs to fire him today. Hopefully it's not true and I have some hope given the source.

I also doubt the info. If it is not true then I wouldn’t be opposed to Glenn winning the job. I am not sure who my first choice is at this time.

 

[St. Widge]

I also doubt the info. If it is not true then I wouldn’t be opposed to Glenn winning the job. I am not sure who my first choice is at this time.

Totally agree. Glenn isn't my first choice and I would prefer a young OC, but I don't think Glenn would be a bad hire if he isn't willing to keep choices because Loomis said he has to.

The worst part of all this is if he does get the job, many people will be convinced that he is Loomis' yes man and only got the job because he was willing to keep coaches Loomis wanted him to keep. All based on this very dubious report.