Trevor Penning (1 Viewer)

[SaintRay]

Will he develop into the LT that the Saints envisioned?

Would he be better off at LG?

He’s been clearly beat on the edge by fast players. His footwork is not there yet. Unless he can increase his own speed, I don’t see him at LT.

LG it’s probably his best hope. He’s a plodder. If he could play there effectively, I don’t see him as a bust. If he can’t crack the lineup at Guard, it’s time to write this guy off.

 

[Elvis]

I'm not sure we'll know until a new coaching staff comes in. I remember when he came in he was a nasty player dominating his opponents in camp and they took the nasty out of him because of penalties. Since then he seems have no confidence and reacts instead of playing with intuition. So, just like a lot of guys on the team, he's regressed and looks bad. We'll see what a real coaching staff can do with him next year if we're lucky.

 

[Saint Spud]

I hope he can develop at some spot. Any spot. I’m not gonna say he’s a bust yet. But his first couple seasons have made Jonathan Sullivan look like Aaron Donald.

 

[Snakehead]

They cut his balls off. Either change the scheme and let him be the nasty enforcer player he was coming into the NFL, or switch him to DL and put him in attack mode with the mean streak that he has. Penning/Bresee on the interior of the D-line could be a nasty duo.

 

[Dome50]

So are they not even using Penning in heavy tackle eligible sets? I seem to remember Landon Young checking in on those plays.

 

[saintfan-n-alexla]

So are they not even using Penning in heavy tackle eligible sets? I seem to remember Landon Young checking in on those plays.

yea hes not playing at all except the week before the bye when several linemen went down

 

[meily]

I'm not sure we'll know until a new coaching staff comes in. I remember when he came in he was a nasty player dominating his opponents in camp and they took the nasty out of him because of penalties. Since then he seems have no confidence and reacts instead of playing with intuition. So, just like a lot of guys on the team, he's regressed and looks bad. We'll see what a real coaching staff can do with him next year if we're lucky.

I do not think he was nasty at all, just a dirty player in practice but on game day when players started punching back it showed he did not have the ability to counter.

Could be the davenport of the offensive line.

 

[Elvis]

I do not think he was nasty at all, just a dirty player in practice but on game day when players started punching back it showed he did not have the ability to counter.

Could be the davenport of the offensive line.

That is not what was on his college tape or the reports coming during his first camp. He was aggressive, not dirty. He ruffled a lot of feathers in camp for driving the players he was blocking back through the whistle and tossing them around like he did in college. Being that aggressive was what made him a first round pick and the coaching staff throttled that aggression completely and it turned him into just a guy.

 

[Ti Rider]

I do not think he was nasty at all, just a dirty player in practice but on game day when players started punching back it showed he did not have the ability to counter.

Could be the davenport of the offensive line.

Davenport’s problem was only his inability to stay healthy. He was an impact player in the few games a season he wasn’t banged up.

Penning’s (and I was a big fan of drafting him and was excited when it briefly appeared he was improving) problems -

He plays too high allowing him to get pushed back to the QB or easily tossed to the ground.

Slow feet. This makes him easily beaten by speed rushers around the edge.

Terrible handwork. Having a great body punch or the ability to bat down pass rushers arms is essential for a LT. Penning can’t do either.

We were told this guy was a nasty Kyle Turkey type OL. He may have bullied guys in college but he gets bullied in the pros.

Doug Marrone has been pretty terrible this year but if there were anything worth salvaging he would’ve improved Penning a little. Switching him to Guard or trading for him for pretty much anything is all they left.

 

[meily]

That is not what was on his college tape or the reports coming during his first camp. He was aggressive, not dirty. He ruffled a lot of feathers in camp for driving the players he was blocking back through the whistle and tossing them around like he did in college. Being that aggressive was what made him a first round pick and the coaching staff throttled that aggression completely and it turned him into just a guy.

That's dirty, they aren't going hard on you so you take advantage of it in practice, but on game day when the OPPOSING TEAM is lining up in front of you and pushing you back like sack of laundry you realize your not as "aggressive" as your TEAMMATES who were going light on you made you feel.

…Northern Iowa is not a perennial powerhouse, he was a big guy bigger than everybody else in he Missouri Valley conference, not exactly Big Ten or SEC football competition.

I'm sure he will get better, and maybe his best position is inside at guard, but he has proven to be terrible at LT.

 

[Dome50]

If he plays too high and has bad pad level at tackle I don't really see how that translates to him succeeding at guard. He's a tall dude. I just don't see that transition working out.

There are only three guards in the NFL listed over 6'6" (our boy Andrus Peat is one of them). Penning is 6'7"

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[St. Geezy]

yea hes not playing at all except the week before the bye when several linemen went down

I think this is yet another sign that the team has thrown in the proverbial towel on him. He's cooked, and this is actually one personnel move they've made that I agree with. The kid can't play.

 

[TenTwo]

You think he can’t hold, false start and get personal fouls from the Guard spot?

 

[Elvis]

That's dirty, they aren't going hard on you so you take advantage of it in practice, but on game day when the OPPOSING TEAM is lining up in front of you and pushing you back like sack of laundry you realize your not as "aggressive" as your TEAMMATES who were going light on you made you feel.

…Northern Iowa is not a perennial powerhouse, he was a big guy bigger than everybody else in he Missouri Valley conference, not exactly Big Ten or SEC football competition.

I'm sure he will get better, and maybe his best position is inside at guard, but he has proven to be terrible at LT.

We have different definitions of dirty I suppose. Just being a jerk and physically aggressive doesn't make you dirty in my view.

As far as his talent goes I have to reserve judgement. I don't see any of our players playing particularly well under this coaching staff, even the veteran players. So a young guy that relies on chemistry like a lineman would doesn't have much of a chance to look good. Our best position group seems to be our DBs while in man coverage which is course is one of the lone roles on a team that doesn't rely on playing together so much.

 

[saintmike23]

Penning is the worst 1st round pick in over 10 years.