Underhill: Saints are interviewing probably 12-13 coaches for Head Coach position [ Tracker: 8 scheduled interviews] (106 Viewers)

[Nolan]

I'm not saying Reid is a bad HC but he was not close to the SB until Mahomes got there. And Smith was not a bad QB

You said he was treading water, he was not. I did not say Smith was a bad QB, I said he was a mid-tier QB.

He had a Superbowl appearance in Philly, with 4 NFCCG appearances to boot. Andy has always been an excellent head coach.

 

[DSnfla]

So, what was it about Payton that suggested he was an alpha dog? He was demoted while with the Giants, and he was just a QB coach for the Cowboys. Payton didn't have a lot of skins on the wall when he was hired, either.

Payton was the ast HC/ QB coach and he was the playcaller in Dallas

You said he was treading water, he was not. I did not say Smith was a bad QB, I said he was a mid-tier QB.

He had a Superbowl appearance in Philly, with 4 NFCCG appearances to boot. Andy has always been an excellent head coach.

Yeah that was in Philly. In KC he did great in the reg season but not so much in the playoffs

 

[Mamba]

Reid was treading water before Mahomes got there, it's Mahomes improv that has won the SBs not his head and shoulders above everyone else's system.

There's no scheme that makes bad to mediocre players great. Coaches adapt, Gruden has been out of football for a couple yrs not my guess is he has not stood still and has adapted much like Payton has

This is a very simplistic take. And actually beyond the point that I was making. But whatever.

Can you identify any specific adaptations Payton has made to his scheme? Not saying he hasn't (he has). Just curious if you know what you're talking about.

 

[nakadish]

Payton was the ast HC/ QB coach and he was the playcaller in Dallas

That's right. Thanks for that.

 

[kennydfresh]

I will never understand Mickey Loomis’s obsession with the Raiders

Maybe we can fire him and give him his dream of working with them.

 

[treeduck]

And 12 GM candidates I hope!

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

I might be wrong. But I think many are being too hard on Loomis. When Loomis hired Payton, it wasn't because he was the more experienced or most sought-after candidate. I thought there were better options. I believe he was a QB coach for Dallas, and he was demoted while with the Giants. But he was the one who "Wowed" Loomis the most even if he was maybe the most inexperienced.

I understand the DA hire because the thinking was that the fall-off in Payton's last year was injuries, etc. and that the train would stay on the tracks with DA. Now that that's clearly not the case, I don't think he changes from wanting to be "Wowed" rather than someone he knows. And if it is someone like AG, it will be because he gave the best interview, not because Loomis knows him.

Loomis hired Payton because the league pretty much told us to. They strongly suggested that we hire Payton.

 

[jesusfish]

Loomis hired Payton because the league pretty much told us to. They strongly suggested that we hire Payton.

Stop. Ya'll can't just rewrite history to fit your narrative. Someone who doesn't know better might see your post and believe it.

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

Stop. Ya'll can't just rewrite history to fit your narrative. Someone who doesn't know better might see your post and believe it.

It's a fact that the league suggested we hire Payton. Maybe I'm wrong that they strongly suggested it, but they did suggest it. And what's my narrative? You don't even know what I think about Loomis.

 

[Saint Matthew]

It's a fact that the league suggested we hire Payton. Maybe I'm wrong that they strongly suggested it, but they did suggest it. And what's my narrative? You don't even know what I think about Loomis.

Facts are based on evidence. What is your evidence that the league wanted us to hire Payton?

 

[sfidc3]

You said he was treading water, he was not. I did not say Smith was a bad QB, I said he was a mid-tier QB.

He had a Superbowl appearance in Philly, with 4 NFCCG appearances to boot. Andy has always been an excellent head coach.

Arguing with this poster is like talking to a brick wall, when he is proven absolutely wrong, hypocritical or the like he totally ignores it and continues to prattle on in his nonsensical, rambling fashion.....FWIW......

 

[Covington Saint]

1. Aaron Glenn
2. Darren Rizzy (not a real candidate)
3. Matt Nagy
4. Mike McCarthy
5. Brian Flores
6. Doug Pederson
7. Jon Gruden
8. Todd Monken
9. Vance Joseph
10. Joe Brady
11. Jeff Halfley
12. Ron Rivera (a courtesy interview of sorts)

 

[Pkessling]

1. Aaron Glenn
2. Darren Rizzy (not a real candidate)
3. Matt Nagy
4. Mike McCarthy
5. Brian Flores
6. Doug Pederson
7. Jon Gruden
8. Todd Monken
9. Vance Joseph
10. Joe Brady
11. Jeff Halfley
12. Ron Rivera (a courtesy interview of sorts)

More than half the list are retread HCs that got fired multiple times. No thanks. Too bad Norv Turner isn’t available.

 

[Covington Saint]

More than half the list are retread HCs that got fired multiple times. No thanks. Too bad Norv Turner isn’t available.

I'm not trying to assemble a dream list for you. This is a real world list. Half your dream list would also not even probably take a saints interview. I'm not convinced we have a roster that is a best match for a very young up and comer guy. I think we need balance of leadership, age and experience.

 

[SAINTSFAN]

Very odd that Nick would "know" exactly how many interviews that Saints intend to perform one day after the season ends.. Seems like he is being told to put out a large number in the media.