Underhill: Saints are interviewing probably 12 coaches [Tracker: 8 confirmed requests] (21 Viewers)

[Covington Saint]

Mike Kafka
Release Carr
Short term test contract with Daniel Jones
unless the kracken.

 

[nakadish]

Mike Kafka
Release Carr
Short term test contract with Daniel Jones
unless the kracken.

I think this is partially right. But I think it's unleash Rattler.

 

[St. Geezy]

Nick doesn't seem to get much info out of the front office. They are, as you know, legendarily insular and tight lipped. But sure, it' is likely the agents for these guys are trying to drum up interest and it's possible Nick is asking someone in the front office to confirm the rumor and they are telling him it it's not true.

I think this is exactly the case. Agents leaking fake info to reporters for leverage/interest, only certain teams are actually correcting the reports.

We actually may very well be the only team that’s gate-keeping our interview request reports now that I think about it.

 

[Loge232]

Just to interject about management/ scouting, Ireland is college scouting correct? So…… anyone know what Mueller’s long term role is? I know he was known as a good talent evaluator when with Seattle years ago and so the reason he was hired as GM here back then. Does it mean Loomis takes a back seat to evaluation for the roster? Will all these guys have a say in the coaching hire? Very curious about this dynamic.

 

[reason2believe]

Did you know Nagy has a better career winning percentage than Gruden? I don't want either of them as head coach, but people pretending Gruden is a much better coach than Nagy is pretty funny.

Records aren’t everything. Gruden coached longer and went through more rebuilds. And he won. Nagy is not a head coach. Period.

 

[DSnfla]

Wow, you replied again 3 days later. This one was really weighing on you

Didn't see it till yesterday

 

[DSnfla]

If you define "treading water" as....... In their 11 seasons under Andy Reid, the Chiefs have nine consecutive playoff seasons and eight consecutive division titles.....

The Chiefs the year before he got there were 2-14....his 1st year they were 11-5 and in the playoffs.....Utterly and totally ridiculous.....like most of your nonsensical ramblings....

When Reid's career is over he will be in the discussion of GOAT.....

In no way did I say that Reid was not a very good coach. What I said is that before Mahomes got there he was treading water. Yes he has some very good reg seasons but only won ONE playoff game before Mahomes was starting QB . Read what I say not what you think I say

 

[DSnfla]

and that's just his KC career. He had a pretty good career coaching Philadelphia before he was run out of that city for making the playoffs frequently, and appearing in a SB, but never winning the big game. I live near Philly and am surrounded by Eagles, Ravens & Steelers fans. Had a front row seat to that drama. Philly fans can be very brutal, and short-sighted. They were wishing they had Reid back, until Pederson & Foles finally broke through and won them a SB. Now, they mostly forget Reid was ever there.

LOL maybe people should read WHAT i say not what people say what they think I said.
What I said is that before Mahomes got there he was treading water. Yes he has some very good reg seasons but only won ONE playoff game before Mahomes was starting QB

 

[Hedon James]

LOL maybe people should read WHAT i say not what people say what they think I said.
What I said is that before Mahomes got there he was treading water. Yes he has some very good reg seasons but only won ONE playoff game before Mahomes was starting QB

I know what you said. I wasn't responding to you or your comments. Read what I said, not what you think I said so you could post this snarky response.

I find it ironic that semantics matter when it comes to content of your posts, but you disregard those semantics when it comes to the posts of others. Since you opened that door, I think it was pretty clear I was piggy-backing onto the other poster's observation about Reid's career in Philly. A commentary about the Philly fanbase, where I live. Nothing I said negates nor refutes any of your comments regarding Reid's KC tenure. In fact, even if you perceived that in some way, I believe that someone who was truly engaged in a meaningful discourse might have pointed out that Reid's tenure in Philly with Donovan McNabb, Mike Vick, Kevin Kolb, and any QBs before McNabb (don't remember, too lazy to look it up) would actually support your "treading water" argument, as you presented it. But you missed that opportunity because you were focused on what you think I said, so you could argue your point further? You're quick to say "maybe people should read WHAT i say not what people say what they think I said."

Take your own condescending advice. You seem to seek conflict and arguments with anyone who doesn't share your opinion. And interject yourself into faux conflicts that you invited yourself to; then play the misunderstood victim, while you clarify your semantics. You're getting what you give. You're not even interesting anymore...seek your drama someplace else. I have no interest in feeding your need...

Seek a higher level...

 

[sfidc3]

In no way did I say that Reid was not a very good coach. What I said is that before Mahomes got there he was treading water. Yes he has some very good reg seasons but only won ONE playoff game before Mahomes was starting QB . Read what I say not what you think I say

I know exactly what you said, maybe you should think more before you post the idiocy that Reid is "treading water"......at this point you would be better off admitting you were wrong but I know you won't.....

Also, he's more than just a "very good coach", he is likely one of the greatest of all time....Very good regular seasons equal playoffs, if that is treading water I sure hope the Saints get back to treading water soon....

 

[St. Widge]

Records aren’t everything. Gruden coached longer and went through more rebuilds. And he won. Nagy is not a head coach. Period.

I did not say that Nagy was a good head coach. I said that given their records, Gruden is not a much better coach than Nagy. So, if Nagy isn't a good HC, and he isn't, then neither is Gruden. Period. Gruden had one great year in 2002 and has been mediocre to bad since then.

So if records aren't everything, does this mean we should have "looked beyond the record" for DA? Of course not. Because, in the end records are everything for a head coach.

 

[Pocket Hercules]

ESPN+ article blurb from this morning. I bolded a comment that I found interesting:

Any updates on the Jets, Saints and Bears openings?​

Fowler: The Saints are taking a low-key approach, with sources telling me that, as of Wednesday afternoon, their candidate list hadn't grown past Lions defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn, Eagles offensive coordinator Kellen Moore, the Bills' Brady, Dolphins defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver, current interim coach Darren Rizzi, Giants offensive coordinator Mike Kafka and Vrabel. I expect that list to expand, but the Saints were using these seven as a launching point.

This is a coveted job among people I've spoken to recently. I've heard that Cowboys coach Mike McCarthy could have some interest, so it wouldn't shock if the Saints try to talk to him should he be free to do so (McCarthy's contract with the Cowboys expires Tuesday). Glenn still seems like the favorite, but he could have options. Glenn and Brady both have New Orleans connectivity as former Saints staffers.

Graziano: Agreed that Glenn seems like the favorite in New Orleans. He's extremely well regarded in that building and very well known because he previously worked there.

 

[Pocket Hercules]

Here is another blurb from The Athletic, within an article that ranked the Saints' opening 5th out of the 6 available:

Saints (5-12): C-. New Orleans has some draws, including an owner always willing to spend (with a major caveat these days), their place in the winnable NFC South and six picks in the first four rounds, including the No. 9 selection.

The negatives: At quarterback, the mediocre Derek Carr (who played just 10 games in 2024) has a no-trade clause and refuses to take a pay cut on a contract that could be restructured to save $30 million — but would likely lock the 33-year-old into starting the next two seasons. Gross. Their veteran talent is either gone (CB Marshon Lattimore was traded, OT Ryan Ramczyk is expected to retire) or aging quickly (35-year-old Cameron Jordan, 29-year-old Alvin Kamara), while there are reasons to doubt WR Chris Olave, LT Taliese Fuaga and CB Kool-Aid McKinstry going forward. By this point, longtime GM Mickey Loomis' salary cap situation is infamous. This team is already a league-worst $50 million over the 2025 cap, twice as bad as even the Browns, with Olave eligible for an extension. It's a mess that will take years to recover from, though I expect they'll continue to kick the proverbial can.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

I did not say that Nagy was a good head coach. I said that given their records, Gruden is not a much better coach than Nagy. So, if Nagy isn't a good HC, and he isn't, then neither is Gruden. Period. Gruden had one great year in 2002 and has been mediocre to bad since then.

So if records aren't everything, does this mean we should have "looked beyond the record" for DA? Of course not. Because, in the end records are everything for a head coach.

Gruden didn’t win his playoff appearances after ‘02 but I think he was more above average than mediocre-bad after the SB. He had 2 NFCS titles in Tampa post-SB. 4 winning seasons out of 7 overall there. He had 5 losses of 3 points or less in the 7-9 season the year after the SB. He produced winning seasons with QBs that were 2nd or 3rd QBs anywhere else or out of the league level. But he maxed out Griese, Simms, Gradkowski, and older Brad Johnson enough to win a decent amount of games. I think his wins reflected the furthest he could go with the QB talent that his two Tampa GMs gave him.

For his career, he has 5 division titles, AFCCG app, SB title, and 5 losing seasons out of 14 full seasons. He probably was on his way to a 10+ win season in the resign year in 2021 based on their schedule and the interim producing 10-7 with his team.

I think his post-Oakland/Tampa SB win career is equivalent to most current playoff coaches. Most playoff coaches in the league right now don’t have more than 1 great season, if any, if a conference championship or SB win defines a great season. They’re just winning their division and maybe get to the divisional round. But a lot of times just making a wildcard appearance and follow up with a winning record but missing playoffs. They’re repeating those results every 3 years, wildcard, missed playoffs, divisional. Or wildcard, divisional, missed playoffs. Maybe they’re lucky enough for the divisional app to become a conference round appearance. But then missed playoffs 2 years in a row after that like the Bengals coach.

 

[Big_L]

Brady with Saleh as DC (SP) would be amazing.