Waiting on a head coaching hire can be tough on the fanbase (4 Viewers)

[perret318]

 

[Doug B]

I hear ya. After some funnin' around on the forums ... at the end of the day ...

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change (like the Saints' HC search) ... "

 

[NolaE21]

 

[No2DC]

Day 21 and counting

 

[Elvis]

Day 21 and counting

84 days since DA was let go. I would have thought they'd have been more prepared. Maybe even do some college coach interviews before the end of the season to get the coach interview rust off.

 

[Super]

Have we signed anyone yet?

 

[HouseCall]

84 days since DA was let go. I would have thought they'd have been more prepared. Maybe even do some college coach interviews before the end of the season to get the coach interview rust off.

From reading this forum, it seems that Loomis should have been hiding in Ben Johnson’s car at Ford Field ready to chloroform him and force him at gun point to be the coach and simultaneously have Gayle shoot Aaron Glenn with a canon net in the parking lot, so he’d be available as a backup.

 

[Elvis]

From reading this forum, it seems that Loomis should have been hiding in Ben Johnson’s car at Ford Field ready to chloroform him and force him at gun point to be the coach and simultaneously have Gayle shoot Aaron Glenn with a canon net in the parking lot, so he’d be available as a backup.

I don't know about all that. I think, while not terribly creative in his coaching search, Loomis is getting interviews with NFL people who might actually want to come here. It's a tough sell for people in the NFL that are currently seen as successful in their current roles though. That's why I think it would have been worthwhile to poke around the college ranks to see what was out there. I know hiring college coaches as first time NFL head coaches is not the trendy thing to do right now, but that might be where we could have had some sort of advantage over the other teams that were looking. And with such a head start it makes sense to me.

 

[StudioSaint]

84 days since DA was let go. I would have thought they'd have been more prepared.

Not hiring who you want them to hire and not announcing a hire as quickly as you want, doesn't mean they are unprepared.

That's 100% perception and opinion on your part.

Maybe even do some college coach interviews before the end of the season to get the coach interview rust off.

Name a team that has ever interviewed a college coach during the regular season. Most of the better college coaches don't finish their season until the end of December or later.

I don't think any college team is going to let their coaches interview while their season is still going on.

 

[Elvis]

Not hiring who you want them to hire and not announcing a hire as quickly as you want, doesn't mean they are unprepared.

That's 100% perception and opinion on your part.

It is my perception. You are right. We had a two month head start on most teams and are now last to hire. That's the way I see it.

Name a team that has ever interviewed a college coach during the regular season. Most of the better college coaches don't finish their season until the end of December or later.

I don't think any college team is going to let their coaches interview while their season is still going on.

I can't name an NFL team that has interviewed a college coach for a HC position recently at all. That was kind of my point. And the college season ended a few weeks ahead of the NFL season on December 13th. So there would have been time to scout, request interviews and conduct them between November 4th when we fired DA and the end of the NFL season ended on January 5th.

 

[jboss]

That would almost guarantee the #1 overall pick, and the halftime shows would be sick. I say we go for it

 

[StudioSaint]

And the college season ended a few weeks ahead of the NFL season on December 13th.

Not for the coaches with bowl games to prepare for and that's going to be most or all of the best college coaches.

 

[Elvis]

Not for the coaches with bowl games to prepare for and that's going to be most or all of the best college coaches.

No, that’s the teams that have the most NIL money.

 

[StudioSaint]

No, that’s the teams that have the most NIL money.

No it's not. All one has to do is compare the top 10 in NIL money to the top 10 ranked and top 10 bowl finishes to see that there is no direct correlation between amount of NIL money and bowl success.

At this point it seems like you're just making stuff up off the cuff rather than acknowledge that you didn't think it through when you said the Saints should have been doing their hiring search since DA got fired during the season.

You can't conduct a coach search without talking to coaches and you can't talk to coaches during the season, so there's no feasible way to start searching for a coach during the season. Your opinion is not reasonable or grounded in the reality of how coach searches work.

 

[Saint KayBee]

No it's not. All one has to do is compare the top 10 in NIL money to the top 10 ranked and top 10 bowl finishes to see that there is no direct correlation between amount of NIL money and bowl success.

At this point it seems like you're just making stuff up off the cuff rather than acknowledge that you didn't think it through when you said the Saints should have been doing their hiring search since DA got fired during the season.

You can't conduct a coach search without talking to coaches and you can't talk to coaches during the season, so there's no feasible way to start searching for a coach during the season. Your opinion is not reasonable or grounded in the reality of how coach searches work.

The most they could have done was assemble a wishlist. It would appear that they did - and most of the wished-for candidates were coaching teams in the playoffs. That created one delay.

Rizzi, Kafka, and Weaver are the most notable three non-playoff team candidates they interviewed. One of them could have been the coach a week or two ago… but one week ago there was snowfall in New Orleans. No movement in or out of the city for a week. Mother Nature created a delay. I shudder to imagine the social media reaction of this fanbase had the FO hired prior to the snowstorm, having taken 0 in-person interviews with coaching candidates still in the playoffs. No Glenn, no Brady, no Moore, which… Glenn took a job with the team that drafted him, and Brady wants to stay put in Buffalo… but imagine the reactions if, in the name of “hiring fast,” the Saints had shut the door on them all first?

Mike McCarthy was a surprise when he came available. Went from “probably staying in Dallas” to “couldn’t agree on the terms” unexpectedly, and the Saints began exploring interest in him. The team is doing their due diligence on a coach with a strong pedigree, but that’s not good enough for the fans either. “Why didn’t you just hire him already, Mickey?” goes the refrain.

What I’m led to conclude is that the fanbase wants the next coach to be Sean Payton, but the decade-plus experienced version of him, who both must be younger than Payton was when he was hired and also already have the advanced pedigree of Payton, and he cannot go through any of the growing pains every young coach experiences, he has to win 10 games and that has to be good enough to land a first-round bye in the playoffs even though there is only one bye now, he has to be prescient enough to know that his week 1 starting quarterback will be an NFL Hall-of-Famer, and if he doesn’t meet even one fan’s standards he’ll be hearing calls to fire him faster than you can say Rashid Shaheed jet sweep to the house.

Good luck to that man.