What are you reading? (4 Viewers)

This one is on my to read list. Let me know what you think when you are done.

well, it should go on my "What are you reading (again)?" list

This is probably my 6th or so time reading it. I think it's incredible. I don't think you need to have read Jane Eyre to really get what's going on. I have a pdf with relevant passages from that novel that give you the requisite background to understand what you need to understand about Antoinette/Bertha

I like it for a number of reasons. First, I think it's a beautifully managed setting. It's gorgeous, but the beauty is although menacing and threatening. It has a very Gothic-esque macabre shade to it. Paradise, superficially, but malevolent and hostile. I just love the setting. And the man made buildings are also hanging on for life, typically falling apart or in ruins.

I also absolutely love the sadness surrounding the character of Antoinette. One tragedy after another and she's just trying to hold on to a fleeting sanity. She's perpetually marginalized from her childhood. A mixed race girl in a segregated, patriarchial society. A family now-rich-once-poor-once-rich in an economically hierarchial society, post-emancipation (but not really). She doesn't belong anywhere and constantly seeks safety, never able t find it. And when she thinks she has the best chance at it, it's taken away.

The depiction of the relationship is also heart wrenching. There are some excellent descriptions of a relationship in which someone invests himself/herself and his/her own happiness in someone else. That's a precarious and vulnerable place to be. And it doesn't always work out.

It also helps if you understand 'death' can also mean sexual climax - le petit mort. There's a seminal scene in which this meaning is key to understanding the male's oppressive dominance over Antoinette.

Setting is amazing. Characterization is deep and conflicted. Relationship is complex and feels real despite being overtly surreal.

There's also the class commentary, and a bit of historical background on the various islands and places and how slavery worked and colonization operated will probably help. If you can get the Norton Critical Edition, it has a lot of helpful footnotes.

It's a beautiful book.

But don't watch the movies. They turned it into softcore porn. I know at least one of the versions is NC-17.

I'm happy to share additional thoughts when you get around to it.

I first picked it up years ago, when my wife and I were dating. She loved the feminine main character and felt that the struggles and vulnerabilities she went through were real - some she'd experienced.

Definitely recommend - glad it's on your list.
 
i've started re-reading

recently finished:
animal farm
1984
adventures of tom sawyer (first time reading)
alienist (first time reading)

currently working on:
chasing the scream: the first and last days of the war on drugs (audible)
the time machine
darkness at noon

after i finish darkness at noon, i think its time to read an upbeat book or two.

have you read any of Orwell's shorter pieces? His essays? If you like his work, I definitely recommend some of those. I think they are all better than Animal Farm, personally.
 
have you read any of Orwell's shorter pieces? His essays? If you like his work, I definitely recommend some of those. I think they are all better than Animal Farm, personally.

thanks doc, i'll have to check them out!
 
well, it should go on my "What are you reading (again)?" list

This is probably my 6th or so time reading it. I think it's incredible. I don't think you need to have read Jane Eyre to really get what's going on. I have a pdf with relevant passages from that novel that give you the requisite background to understand what you need to understand about Antoinette/Bertha

I have read Jane Eyre, so no problem there.

You say don't watch the movies, and then you post this: They turned it into softcore porn. I know at least one of the versions is NC-17.

Mixed messages. :hihi:
 
thanks doc, i'll have to check them out!

starting with "Shooting an Elephant" is great - imminently readable and very good work controlling the tone of a tense scene. Speaks also to the pressure of a single person against the expectations of a larger group. Colonial subtext. really good.

Also has a great opening line:

In Moulmein, in Lower Burma, I was hated by large numbers of people--the only time in my life that I have been important enough for this to happen to me.

pdf link: https://hilo.hawaii.edu/~tbelt/Pols360-S08-Reading-ShootingAnElephant.pdf
 
I have read Jane Eyre, so no problem there.

You say don't watch the movies, and then you post this: They turned it into softcore porn. I know at least one of the versions is NC-17.

Mixed messages. :hihi:

:hihi:

fair enough

So, read the book. Watch the movie. Understand they are loosely related.

Speaking of opening lines, Wide Sargasso Sea has one of my all time favorites:

"They say when trouble comes, close ranks, and so the white people did."

:swoon:
 
I just got my copy of Fire and Fury...
 
About to jump into Iron Gold, the fourth book in the Red Rising saga by Pierce Brown. I loved the first three books so much and I can't wait to get back into this universe.
 
If i could recommend one book, it would be Shantaram by Gregory David Roberts. It's an absolutely beautifully written story, supposedly autobiographical, about an escaped convict who flees to India and starts over. I don't know that I've liked a book this much since reading James Clavell's Asian Saga series.
 
I just finished Conrad's Heart of Darkness and also The Sunflower by Simon Wisenthal.

Next up is some fantasy novels. Dawn of Wonder and The Name of the Wind. Both were recommended by a friend of mine. I may also re-read Neil Gaiman's Norse Mythology. That one was a lot of fun.

I second Oye's rec on reading Orwell's essays and short stories. If you're interested in language and writing his Politics and the English Language is one I recommend

https://faculty.washington.edu/rsoder/EDLPS579/HonorsOrwellPoliticsEnglishLanguage.pdf
 
I finished Origins and Anna Karenina.

Origins: I enjoyed it, but the basic plot felt like a re-hash of his prior books with Robert Langdon (he finds something out and is on the run with a pretty woman).

Anna Karenina: Really liked it. Although there is a lot of detail in the story, almost all of it is important to the story/character. It is a long book, so you will have to invest time into it, but definitely worth the read.

I have also read the following since:

Tale of Two Cities: Finally got around to reading this. The middle of the book was tough to get through for me, but the ending makes up for it.

The Outsiders: My daughter recommended this book. She loved it. I thought it was okay. Not a must read, but not terrible in my opinion.

Martian Chronicles: I was a little disappointed in this one. I had a lot of people telling me that I had to read this book. It seemed disjointed to me--like a group of short stories. It was imaginative, and I like that. However, it just didn't seem to ever flow for me.

Oye: I haven't been able to find Wide Sargossa Sea on Kindle. I will have to hit a book store to pick that one up.
 
If i could recommend one book, it would be Shantaram by Gregory David Roberts. It's an absolutely beautifully written story, supposedly autobiographical, about an escaped convict who flees to India and starts over. I don't know that I've liked a book this much since reading James Clavell's Asian Saga series.

I put this on my to read list thanks
 

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