What happened in the game last night? (1 Viewer)

But they outflanked themselves by trying to be sneaky w the personnel and keeping Taysom off the field so Atlanta doesn't expect an 11 man run. But I'd have just put him in there and forced them to stop it while also accounting for the fact that he can also pass.
I have a suspicion that Taysom might have gotten a bit nicked up earlier in the game. He got up kind of slow after one of his runs, and after that play, I can't remember us using him much. Otherwise, it's a no-brainer to use Taysom in that spot.
 
The only other negative I saw (without doing a lot more analysis) was on a late blitz. There was a OLB stacked over DE, and a 1 tech. Looked like the protection was rolled to the 1 tech, but he rushed hard over the center and Ruiz adjusted late to the blitzer coming from his right after moving to his left for the 1 tech. He just about got enough on him. Without knowing fully what was called and what expectations are, it felt like he made a really good adjustment to a situation where the protection call could have been better.
And this, J, illustrates what I'm talking about with attacking the saints gap rules up front and forcing them to communicate in a loud, hostile environment. It's easy to boil it down to "this/these players arent good" when it's really way more loaded than that. The falcons did a great job at scheming up their pressure in very subtle ways.
 
I think that the Saints were thoroughly outcoached through 3 quarters. The Falcons went into the game with an identity on offense, and the Saints just didn’t. It honestly looked like the Saints we’re playing a preseason game. The Falcons are a bad team and it took a lot to go right to win that game. A win is a win…but the Saints cannot allow what happened yesterday to ever happen again, because they will lose that game 95% of the time again just about any other team. Have to get better at coaching and in the trenches on both sides of the ball.
Louie doesnt think ATL is a bad team

Pitts , Landon , Patterson and Mariota is going to cause alot of problems for other teams
 
I have a suspicion that Taysom might have gotten a bit nicked up earlier in the game. He got up kind of slow after one of his runs, and after that play, I can't remember us using him much. Otherwise, it's a no-brainer to use Taysom in that spot.

I think it was getting "game fit" - legs arent quite there yet to account for that adrenal dump. When i saw him slow at end of his 50+ yard run, it was more exertion than injury.

I get why we dont play starters in pre-season, but cant replicate "game speed/fitness" in practice.

Watch by game 4 or 5. He will run out back of endzone lol.
 
No I think that it's a bit of an overblown take. The reason why he looked better out of gun was they were going up tempo. If Jameis had serious issues under center they would have been identified long ago. They aren't just suddenly going to pop up in his 8th year.
i think this is the main benefit to having your insights - most of our takes look for the magic bullet, "what one or two things provides the answer to why we won (or lost as the case may be)"
coaches know it's WAY more complex than that (including what the other team does)
we really appreciate what you bring
 
Did Peat struggle? I could be wrong but I thought he had a great day. I thought it was Hurst and Ruiz that struggled. From what I saw, Peat was having himself a game. I could be wrong because it's hard to identify who is at fault during some blitzes.

He was awful. He let a free rusher through because he decided to block a guy who was already getting double teamed…

Watch the game winning kick highlight. We’re lucky it wasn’t blocked the guy blew right through Peat.
 
And this, J, illustrates what I'm talking about with attacking the saints gap rules up front and forcing them to communicate in a loud, hostile environment. It's easy to boil it down to "this/these players arent good" when it's really way more loaded than that. The falcons did a great job at scheming up their pressure in very subtle ways.
Yes, that sorta thing is really simple and really complex, at the same time. It's generally simple when you wind it back and say this is what happened and you should have done this, but very complex before the fact, when it's loud, and a defense is doing things which are unexpected.

I admit, I was feeling really good about Ruiz up to that sack by Jarrett. Hurst got beat on the same play. It's one you hope the QB gets the ball out real quick to save your bacon, but that didn't happen unfortunately.
 
He was awful. He let a free rusher through because he decided to block a guy who was already getting double teamed…

Watch the game winning kick highlight. We’re lucky it wasn’t blocked the guy blew right through Peat.
I'm not sure which play you're talking about, but Peat might have been playing his assignment. If the guy blitzing is assigned to someone else, then generally you let that guy block who he's supposed to. Was it the one where Kamara looked to miss the free rusher? That came from the left.
 
I'm not sure which play you're talking about, but Peat might have been playing his assignment. If the guy blitzing is assigned to someone else, then generally you let that guy block who he's supposed to. Was it the one where Kamara looked to miss the free rusher? That came from the left.

I was at the game and I’m still in Atlanta so I haven’t had a chance to watch it back. Just remember seeing it then seeing the replay on the Jumbotron and thinking “wtf is this man doing”. It might of been a delayed blitz but Hurst was one on one and McCoy and Ruiz engaged with a guy in their A gap and Peat goes over to help them letting the guy lined up over him come through clean.
 
I was at the game and I’m still in Atlanta so I haven’t had a chance to watch it back. Just remember seeing it then seeing the replay on the Jumbotron and thinking “What the Fork! is this man doing”. It might of been a delayed blitz but Hurst was one on one and McCoy and Ruiz engaged with a guy in their A gap and Peat goes over to help them letting the guy lined up over him come through clean.
I think that may have been the play where it looks like Kamara was on the backer on that side, started on a route, saw the blitzer and tried to re-direct to get him but by then Hurst and the pass rusher he was blocking was already in the way. Maybe it was a different play. But essentially, OL don't really 'decide' who to block so much as the follow the assignments based on the scheme and the relevant protection/slide calls. If that defender was for the RB to block, then Peat shouldn't block him because he rushes. Possibly, He would have been sliding to the A gap with the expectation, pre-snap, that the overload was on the right side and McCoy and Ruiz would have their own guys to block.

Hard to know for sure without watching the play.
 
Great post from the OP

My concerns: Ruiz and Peat struggled when the defense blitzed yesterday. They looked confused at times. The trajectory of the football from Lutz on a few FG's was low. I'm surprised they didn't get blocked.

Good things: The signing on Jarvis Landry in the offseason paid off.
Okay. Many of those blitzes were not their fault. I saw Winston bring the ball back down which gave the blitz time to succeed. It seemed that many of Winston's passes were outside the hash marks in the first half particulalry. Quick passes over the middle are a matter of timing and are Thomas' bread and butter. The Saints didn't do much of that in the 1st half. I'd like to see a placement chart for Winston's passes to validate my observation. Also, it would be interesting to see how long on average Winston hold onto the ball during pass plays. Hopefully, his release time will improve once the rust shakes off.
 
I think that may have been the play where it looks like Kamara was on the backer on that side, started on a route, saw the blitzer and tried to re-direct to get him but by then Hurst and the pass rusher he was blocking was already in the way. Maybe it was a different play. But essentially, OL don't really 'decide' who to block so much as the follow the assignments based on the scheme and the relevant protection/slide calls. If that defender was for the RB to block, then Peat shouldn't block him because he rushes. Possibly, He would have been sliding to the A gap with the expectation, pre-snap, that the overload was on the right side and McCoy and Ruiz would have their own guys to block.

Hard to know for sure without watching the play.
they are referencing the sack on the first drive of the second half. I remember watching the replay and seeing McCoy and Ruiz engage the same guy, while Peat slid over to block the same player. I made a thread about it wondering whose responsibility it was to slide the protection over. I'm still not sure what Peat's responsibility was on that play?
 
There were several instances where someone came after Jameis untouched. Man, that's gotta be cleaned up fast.

I'm very proud of Jameis for finding his WR's fast and throwing accurately in the 4th quarter, and proud of mike and Olave for stepping up when the game was on the line.
 
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Again, a lot people trying to point out that Peat was bad or Ruiz was bad or Jameis was bad... Guys, the entire offense was struggling. The defense was very effectively using the crowd noise, their own alignment, and just sound disciplined play to expose the offense and prevent them from doing what they wanted to do. Jameis did take some of those sacks and probably prevented turnovers in the process. As much as it was frustrating at times, it probably kept the game from getting away from the saints and gave them a chance to come back and win.

A lot for pontificating about Winston's past turnover issues without acknowledging that he is playing very, very smart and protecting the ball in situations where he would've previously tried to do too much.

In terms of communication errors, it is nearly impossible to determine from the outside who was doing what. All i can tell you is that communication was definitely an issue. Both units struggled and were being outplayed by the units across from them.
 
There were several instances where someone came after Jameis untouched. Man, that's gotta be cleaned up fast.

I'm very proud of Jameis for finding his WR's fast and throwing accurately in the 4th quarter, and proud of mike and Olive for stepping up when the game was on the line.
Those type of mistakes are easier to correct than trying to correct guys who just gets beat playing the right assignments consistently. The O-Line will get it together. We shouldn’t expect them to be the first 3 quarters bad again this season as long as they’re healthy.
 

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