Why are the Saints so bad at running the football? (1 Viewer)

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I was looking at league stats by team. The one area that we are particularly weak in is yards per carry. We rush for 3.7 ypc. The only worse teams at running the ball are the Jags and Raiders at 3.6 and the Bucs at 3.5.

I couldn’t find the ypc breakdown by player, but I would imagine, without Taysom, we would be the worst in the league.

We have five first round draft pick offensive linemen that we drafted on the team. Are any of our offensive linemen good run blockers? Are any particularly bad? Is it the coaching: OL coach, OC?

 

[limeyjohn]

Not sure, but when we flip the ball backwards to Kamara it so often seems to end in lost yards

 

[Deuuuuce]

I think a lot of it is play calling . it seems like we start slow and have to play from behind a lot and we never stick with the run game. I don’t think it’s the offensive line so much as it is the play calling.

 

[SweetT]

Let’s ask ourselves why are we taking AK41 out on 2nd down and even 3rd downs these days?
drives me nuts

 

[Elvis]

We seem to pass a lot on first down and when those go incomplete then we are in 2nd and 10. So we pass again for 3 yards and then pass again 4 yards behind the sticks and punt. That is of course unless we end up in 3rd and short and then throw incomplete deep.

Or more simply put, coaching and play calling.

 

[Saint Greg]

Because our offensive line is garbage.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

Let’s ask ourselves why are we taking AK41 out on 2nd down and even 3rd downs these days?
drives me nuts

Matchups

 

[RadsRock]

TH7 has 347 yds on 71 att (average 4.9/carry). Subtract these from team totals and Team minus Taysom averages 3.4/carry.

So yes by that measure we would be #32.

But if you subtract any team's YPC leader from that team's total, the team YPC is gonna go down. So I don’t know if this means anything.

But it doesn't matter, it is clear — we stink at running.

Got some things to clean up there, and um...

 

[Saintcd]

Let’s ask ourselves why are we taking AK41 out on 2nd down and even 3rd downs these days?
drives me nuts

Yeah, can’t understand why we take our playmakers off the field just to continue the Payton substitution every single down.

 

[DSnfla]

Our Oline has regressed every yr since 2020. We had the #5 Oline according to PFF in 19 . Still had a top 8 one in 20. In 21 we dropped to 18 and last yr we fell off the cliff to 21. Why the decline? 1st in 21 Dan Roshar was moved from Oline coach to run game / TE coach. That started it, then in 22 we lost Armstead to Miami. Now TA was usually hurt a good part of the yrs he played but when he played he was one of the best. Last yr we made the big mistake of hiring Doug Marrone a guy that didn't last 1 yr under Saban before he got fired.. Only real change in personnel is Armstead , yes he was our best O lineman but 1 guy does not an Oline make. When players regress badly you have to look at coaching.
Now the guy that had us a top 10 ranked Oline all the time he was here is not even with the team now , Dan Roshar. He's coaching the Oline @ Tulane. Another ball dropped by DA

 

[SweetT]

Yeah, can’t understand why we take our playmakers off the field just to continue the Payton substitution every single down.

It makes no logical sense for AK41 to be used as a 1 down back. He wants to be fed the ball. He is basically lobbying every post game presser. This coaching staff has a very low IQ

 

[Saint KayBee]

Yeah, can’t understand why we take our playmakers off the field just to continue the Payton substitution every single down.

Pete Carmichael doing Sean Payton cosplay

 

[solarbear88]

Bad Oline. Poor scheme. And they telegraph it through their personnel groups. One thing that made this week's running better was that their blocking receivers were doing double duty with the passing packages and it was less predictable.

 

[Rouxble]

TH7 has 347 yds on 71 att (average 4.9/carry). Subtract these from team totals and Team minus Taysom averages 3.4/carry.

So yes by that measure we would be #32.

But if you subtract any team's YPC leader from that team's total, the team YPC is gonna go down. So I don’t know if this means anything.

But it doesn't matter, it is clear — we stink at running.

Got some things to clean up there, and um...

I think it’s fair to subtract Hill because he is running from the QB position. We have usually struggled to get yards when any other QB has handed off the ball in our conventional offense.

 

[liveoakh]

Because Loomis was trying to get our LT bust to work. Since Pete has been in at LT, we have been a better running team.