Why do the Mannings sound like they have a Different accent ?? (2 Viewers)

[hardhead233]

Okay, now if we are talking about Jake Delhomme that's a TOTALLY DIFF. story Listening to him talk.............you know he's one of ours.

When you say "one of ours" you're not talking about New Orleans because nobody from New Orleans has an accent like Jake Delhomme, Jake's is southwestern Louisiana/Acadiana cajun accent. If you mean Louisiana however then yes, you can definitely tell he's from Louisiana if you're familiar with the accent/regional dialects.....

 

[hardhead233]

I think they've both spent enough time in mississippi to account for the accent. As for their time in New Orleans, I don't think you'll find it very common for someone who is a "1st generation" new orleanian in their socioeconomic bracket to have that "new orleans" accent these days. To sum things up, here are my reasons that they don't have a yat accent:

1) First things first: not that many people who go to Newman, et al. have any distinguishable new orleans accent. Having gone to Ben Franklin, and knowing lots of people from Newman, Country Day, St. Martin, etc, I'd say far fewer than 10% had a heavy accent (to my ear, anyway).

2) If you're a 1st generation New Orleanian (your parents grew up somewhere else), you're not likely to pick up that much of an accent even if you spent a lot of time in New Orleans.

3) They spent a lot of time in Mississippi, and their dad sounds just like they do...hmmm

This is exactly how I understand it. I didn't want to get into the whole socioeconomic aspect of it but that's what I meant when I said education and being from the upper class determines a person speech/accent/dialect. Combined with the fact that I assumed that he probably spent considerable time in Mississippi with his family(didn't know that was true until now)

 

[ccase39]

Wow, this is an interesting question and may explain why, though I very much respect the Manning family and sons (what is there not to respect?), I am not real fans of Peyton and Eli.

First, a caveat given for context: I am originally from New Orleans. My family on both sides has roots east of Esplanade. My mom grew up on Franklin and Gentilly Blvd. My dad once lived near Frenchman and St. Claude. I grew up in Gentilly and NO East when it was first developing. Then and now, much family in Metairie (and now in St. Tammany). Those who know how parochial the city is will understand the next comment: When I was growing up, I had limited contact with uptown (except for Saint and Buc games, and basketball games at De La Salle). I certainly knew a lot of kids going to high schools uptown, but I didn't then know anybody going to Newman.

I don't consider Peyton and Eli real, totally authentic, 100 percent Orleanians. I can't totally put my finger on it. Part of it is that the kids are part of the Uptown establishment and went to Newman (see above, and I understand and probably deserve the bashing from Uptowners and Newman grads).

Part of it is that the kids have names like Cooper and Peyton and Eli rather than Buddy or Skippy or Hap.

Part of it is the accent, which may have traces of Uptown but which is just so different from what you hear in the city (we will not hear Peyton tell the female sideline reporter after the game: "Darlin', when I threw that pass, I just said, 'Oh my Gawd!'").

Part of it is the college choices and the feeling that LSU was never a serious option for the boys. Cooper and Eli went to Ole Miss, a decision totally understandable given that mother and father attended Ole Miss (and a popular choice of Uptown kids). But Peyton's Tennessee choice--not LSU, not even Ole Miss, but another SEC school--rankles still.

In summary, the Manning kids, especially Peyton, are from New Orleans but in terms of culture are not totally part of New Orleans. Indeed, in terms of culture, they probably are a tad more from Mississippi--in speech, in manner, in outlook--than from New Orleans. And the reason is Archie and Olivia are from Mississippi, and the family's roots are there.

Let me quickly add that this is not a criticism of the family. Archie and Olivia seem very committed to the city and have contributed greatly to many worthy causes over the decades. They have obviously done a super job of raising children who seem like high quality human beings. And I will probably be pulling for Peyton tomorrow--though not as much as my mother who is a huge Peyton fan.

Peyton and Eli picked their schools because they were the two SEC schools that they and mainly archie thought they would have the best chance of winning a title and getting the boys media exposure. When peyton entered college all the pieces were in place for Tennessee to win a national title, although it didnt happen. when Eli went to ole miss he made the decision because at the time Ole Miss was an up and coming team in the SEC. David Cutcliffe who was peytons QB coach at Tennessee was hired as the Ole Miss head coach. Eli probably would have picked LSU had not Cutcliffe been hired at Ole Miss. And the idea that you should like someone less because they are not from New Orleans is ludicrous. Now not liking peyton because he is a horse faced yokel, as I do is a different story. in my opinion the three mannings are some of the most overrated players in football history. Archie was the most famous QB never to have a winning season, Eli just plain sucks and does not have a leadership bone in his scrawney noodle armed body, is afraid to get hit, and Peyton looks exactly the same if you pressure him and has yet to get a team with pro bowl recievers a superbowl win. And he wont tomorrow.

 

[ccase39]

Okay, now if we are talking about Jake Delhomme that's a TOTALLY DIFF. story Listening to him talk.............you know he's one of ours.

no hes not hes from Breaux Bridge and therefore according to certain posters a lesser person.

 

[St. Reginald]

I was born in Jackson, Mississippi and lived there until I was about 3 and therefore developed a hidious southern/Mississippi drawl which totally diminished once I moved to Ocean Springs/Biloxi and lived there for a year or two. When I went off to Ole Miss I was often asked if I was from California or the west coast(probably had to do with my constant flip-flop wearing and long hair with Hawaiian-type shirts plus the lack of any accent whatsoever). Most people didn't believe I was born and raised right in Mississippi, although I was referred to as "coast trash" quite frequently. I transferred after one semester in that hellhole called Oxford. I will never go back to that wretched place. I've also noticed on the coast over here that the further west you go, the more "cajun" the accents get, as well as the more French the last names get(I dated a Bourgeois for a couple years from Pass Christian). The opposite can be found the further east you get...tends to get more "redneck" or "traditional southern"as you head towards Pascagoula and Moss Point. By the way, I always cringe when I hear someone pronounce it "New Orleens."

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

I wonder what Nick Saban would say they sound like?

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

the idea that you should like someone less because they are not from New Orleans is ludicrous. Now not liking peyton because he is a horse faced yokel, as I do is a different story.

:_rofl:

 

[Fiyo]

I grew up in New Orleans, but don't have the hardcore accent because my parents, who lived in N.O. for 34 years, were originally from North Louisiana -- my mother even had a countryish "twang." -- I live in North Louisiana and now when I go back home to N.O., friends tell me I have a bit of that "twang" too (but I don't hear it).

It's the people whose families have lived in New Orleans for generations that have that wonderful "Yat" accent.

 

[realitybias]

I know what he's saying about Peyton going to Tenn. though... I mean, think about it guys, we'll be angry if McKnight goes to USC.

 

[philipkw]

The opposite can be found the further east you get...tends to get more "redneck" or "traditional southern"as you head towards Pascagoula and Moss Point.

As a native Pascagoulian, I prefer "traditional southern" over "redneck”. For the most part the southern accents along the coast are different from the southern accents in the northern part of the State.

I was in a hotel bar in Seattle a few years ago and started chatting with this old dude from NYC. Within minutes the guy asks, "Where in Mississippi are you from?" Totally out of the blue he pegged my accent as Mississippian, and much like you I had been told my entire life that I had little trace of an accent.

 

[CT Saints Fan]

I grew up in Metairie, and lived there until I was 22. I don't have a Yat accent.

My brother grew up in Metairie and has lived their his whole 45 years. He doesn't have a Yat accent.

My sister grew up in Metairie, lived there until she was about 25. She had a pretty serious Yat accent.

Go figure. We all grew up in the same family in the same house with each other.

I have lived outside of New Orleans for 18 years now, and no one has ever guessed that I am from there before I told them. And most say, "You don't sound like it."

 

[Speck Killer]

They sound like thier parents because that is who they were around the most. You will talk like the people around you the most. That tells you right there, that they were probably pretty guarded wit thier children and kept them close most of the time. It makes sense. Here are kids of an NFL qb so thier life was in the spotlight alot growing up. Common sense tells you that since they were around thier parents and the other brothers most of the time, that they would all speak the same.

 

[Saint Tex]

I'm not sure it's fair to say that Peyton identifies more with Tennessee. He is loyal to his college team, but both Peyton and Eli worked to get supplies to New Orleans and have supported recovery efforts for their hometown. I doubt that anyone here actually how Peyton identifies himself.

They were both born and raised in New Orleans. This thread is reminding me of that old joke, that in New Orleans, the Welcome Wagon calls on you until the third generation. The idea that someone born and raised in New Orleans isn't really from New Orleans is one that has kept the city isolated from new businesses--and this was before Katrina. Corporations did not want to locate there because their top managers could not be accepted into New Orleans society. New Orleans was isolated from new money coming into the city, and it's one of the reasons that it stayed so poor.

New Orleans needs help from everyone to recover from Katrina, including "outsiders" who were only born there to parents who were born elsewhere. Maybe it's time to let this attitude go.

 

[Broadmoor74]

Okay, now if we are talking about Jake Delhomme that's a TOTALLY DIFF. story Listening to him talk.............you know he's one of ours.

I don't quite understand this. Jake Delhomme grew up in southwest Louisiana if i'm not mistaken. He speaks with a straight Cajun accent. Not a New Orleans accent. So he's one of ours? The Mannings speak with a normal accent/slightly southern (because of their aforementioned Mississippi roots and because the Garden District was first settled by protestant Americans mostly from the South, not Catholic Creoles or the Italians and Irish and blacks who all give to our New Orleans accent).

So if you're from another part of the state, you're one of ours? But if you're from our city, but you grow up with money and without a thick accent, you're less of a New Orleanian?

Being from Uptown (Broadmoor, not exactly Beverly Hills), i'm often times confused about a certain bias that lingers to this day.

 

[crthomps]

I don't consider Peyton and Eli real, totally authentic, 100 percent Orleanians. I can't totally put my finger on it. Part of it is that the kids are part of the Uptown establishment and went to Newman (see above, and I understand and probably deserve the bashing from Uptowners and Newman grads).

I went to high school with Eli and was several years behind Peyton at Newman. They've always had those accents. They were born in NO and raised in NO and moved away in adulthood, and aside from this trash about you not liking Newman grads and uptowners and "something" not sitting right with you about Peyton, they are every bit as much "New Orleanians" as you could ever claim to be. Archie Manning's home has been New Orleans for decades now and he continues to be one of the most well-recognized and vocal supporters of this city. The Manning family is one of the best friends the city of New Orleans has.

Peyton opting to forego being a "good ole' LSU boy" has exactly nothing to do with how much of a New Orleanian he is.