WWLTV Opinion piece: The time has come for NFL to show its hand (1 Viewer)

[darkhornet]

Opinion: The time has come for NFL to show its hand | wwltv.com New Orleans

For nearly two months, Saints fans and the players they love have pleaded for the NFL to release information it had on the alleged bounty program.

The fans wanted evidence that the team they love more than life itself at times was doing something as heinous and devious as the NFL said it was doing.

The players wanted the smoking gun information in the 18,000 or so documents the NFL combed through to be shown because they didn’t believe the evidence existed.

There’s a phrase folks like to use in scenarios like this: Careful what you wish for.

Only, in this case, that might not apply.

Very well written piece and pretty well sums up the opinions of the fans right now.

 

[saintsfan26]

Good article. People are finally opening their eyes. We just want the truth. If they have proof, show us and we will accept the punishments. If not, then Goodell should be suspended indefinitely for terrible judgement and for lying.

 

[SoggyBottomBoy]

Sums up the recent events nicely. The frustrating thing is this:

Certainly the NFL is under no mandate to release information, but

:aargh:

 

[stevend]

If not, then Goodell should be suspended indefinitely for terrible judgement and for lying.

He actually has an easy out. All he has to do is agree that he can't punish the players prior to the CBA. Then the coaches would remain suspended and the evidence would never be revealed.

But he can't because...

Night of the fight, you may fell a slight sting, that's pride ******' wit you. **** pride! Pride only hurts, it never helps. You fight through that ****. 'Cause a year from now, when you're kickin' it in the Caribbean you're gonna say to yourself, "Marsellus Wallace was right."

 

[FuzzyDunlop]

The local media should have been the one's leading the charge from the beginning.

If by some miracle the NFL has tons of actual legitimate evidence that they haven't released yet that proves their allegations, then I think most people would probably accept it an move on.

But if all they have is more of the manipulated nonsense that they've been putting out, well then they deserve everything that comes their way.

Personally I would love for the NFL just to put their cards on the table. Maybe it is horrible and damning and everything they've been claiming it to be, and at least at that point we can accept it and move it. But most likely, they've been embellishing what they have and have dug themselves into a pretty big hole.

Either way, everyone involved with this bounty situation deserves to see what the NFL actually has. It is just laughable that they don't seem to feel the same way. If they really had everything they're claiming, you would think that they would be running to the media to get it all out there.

I'm just glad some of the local media isn't beyond telling it like it is.

 

[FWtex]

The one piece that the rest of the country and the media still cling to is that the coaches admitted to the bounty and accepted their suspensions so the NFL must be right on the whole bounty gate.

My thought on this though is that the coaches were forced to accept their suspensions in order to save their careers. The coaches really had no power to battle their employer.

So my question now is, would the saints players, past and present, have the right to file suit againtst the NFL to place an injunction on the coaches suspensions? The players claim could be 1) that the allegations directly reflects the players reputations. 2) an NFL career for players is short and that the unjust suspension causes significant damage to their career and earnings.

If the players could sue on behalf of the coaches it would shield the coaches from league retaliation. .... and on top of that is would be just another sore spot on Goodells behind that he has to deal with.

 

[FootballLady]

The local media should have been the one's leading the charge from the beginning.

If by some miracle the NFL has tons of actual legitimate evidence that they haven't released yet that proves their allegations, then I think most people would probably accept it an move on.

But if all they have is more of the manipulated nonsense that they've been putting out, well then they deserve everything that comes their way.

Personally I would love for the NFL just to put their cards on the table. Maybe it is horrible and damning and everything they've been claiming it to be, and at least at that point we can accept it and move it. But most likely, they've been embellishing what they have and have dug themselves into a pretty big hole.

Either way, everyone involved with this bounty situation deserves to see what the NFL actually has. It is just laughable that they don't seem to feel the same way. If they really had everything they're claiming, you would think that they would be running to the media to get it all out there.

I'm just glad some of the local media isn't beyond telling it like it is.

That's what is really behind a lot of the anger toward Jeff Duncan and the rest. Why did they so readily accept the NFL's version of events? Why have they remained so uncurious and then gone out of their way to be condescending toward fans who asked legitimate questions? I don't care what they do from here on out, they've lost me forever.

 

[ironhead]

I firmly believe that the NFL has overexagerated these charges and led the press and the public to believe that the Saints are far guiltier than anything their actual evidence can show. The part I am having a hard time understanding is why would the NFL do this? How does this help them out on the player lawsuits to trump up that any of their teams have had a three year "bounty" program? If the NFL wants to use the Saints as a scapegoat, than just come right out and say that "there has been an accusation that the Saints had a bounty on Brett Favre, in the championship game. In our investigation, it has been determined through admissions of Gregg Williams and Joe Vitt that there was a pay for performance system taking place with the Saints and an admission that they lied about it during the NFL's earlier investigation". Then come down with penalties that are actually appropriate to what took place. The NFL shows that they take these allegations seriously, and the players (past and present) and the public believes that the NFL can be trusted to act responsibly when it comes to player safety. When all this is said and done, the Saints will suffer greatly by losing their head coach, our franchise will be forever tarnished, a greater portion of the public will come to realize that Goodell and his cronies have very little integrity, and there will be less trust from the players towards the league. I just don't understand what Goodell's master plan is in all of this.

 

[DEDE504]

This photo says it all about goodell's feeling towards us. Absolutely hates the success.

 

[AARPSaint]

I just don't understand what Goodell's master plan is in all of this.

He doesn't have one IMHO. Goodell seems to have a problem thinking ahead and considering consequences. Moroever, it's not clear that his advisers are giving him good advice.

 

[Saints 4 life]

This photo says it all about goodell's feeling towards us. Absolutely hates the success.

You need to remove his mug! I can't stand to see it. It kills me!

 

[GeaxSaints44]

I just don't understand what Goodell's master plan is in all of this.

I honestly think this is a CYA measure for Goodell in light of the concussion lawsuits. It's not about player safety, but more about him saying "Look, I'm seriously against this! See what I did to the Saints?". Unfortunately for Goodell, it's put up or shut up time now. He's gotten everybody riled up and painting the Saints in a negative light and now he needs to back it up with proof. Has anybody noticed that the bounty talk has quieted somewhat since the BS flag has been risen?

 

[thebutler007]

The one piece that the rest of the country and the media still cling to is that the coaches admitted to the bounty and accepted their suspensions so the NFL must be right on the whole bounty gate.

My thought on this though is that the coaches were forced to accept their suspensions in order to save their careers. The coaches really had no power to battle their employer.

So my question now is, would the saints players, past and present, have the right to file suit againtst the NFL to place an injunction on the coaches suspensions? The players claim could be 1) that the allegations directly reflects the players reputations. 2) an NFL career for players is short and that the unjust suspension causes significant damage to their career and earnings.



If the players could sue on behalf of the coaches it would shield the coaches from league retaliation. .... and on top of that is would be just another sore spot on Goodells behind that he has to deal with.

And without the coaches advice, play calling, etc, the players performance may go down..affecting their reputation and value.

 

[FlySaint]

I honestly think this is a CYA measure for Goodell in light of the concussion lawsuits. It's not about player safety, but more about him saying "Look, I'm seriously against this! See what I did to the Saints?". Unfortunately for Goodell, it's put up or shut up time now. He's gotten everybody riled up and painting the Saints in a negative light and now he needs to back it up with proof. Has anybody noticed that the bounty talk has quieted somewhat since the BS flag has been risen?

Well to be honest the quiet is all on the league side now. Vilma's lawyer Ginsberg has been quite vocal the last few days. But the quiet from Herr Kommisar is something of a sign that his media misinformation campaign is not working anymore...

 

[bornnraisedwhodat]

Lol, off topic but im sitting here listening to wwl and Mike D just tried to prunounce Isa Abdul Quddus......lord he wrecked it.

He said Iza-Obdoool Kudos lmao

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