See? Liberalism IS a mental disorder.... (1 Viewer)

[IntenseSaint]

oh look thoughtless one liner (pic) attacking a side.
I could very well post a pic of several nut jobs on the right, but I hope that this thread can fly above such drivel and turn into a well thought out and intelligent debate.

Please refrain from taking pot shots, at least in this ONE DAMN THREAD!!!

How come you admonished Big E for his post about being a one liner but you didn't say anything to chatawaclan who posted a one liner immediately after you called for civil discourse.

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

I'm sure there's an argument against this guys writing, but how do you argue against this.

what's your point? just because i don't find Garafolo attractive doesn't mean i would immediately discount what she has to say... just as i wouldn't discount anything Rush Limbaugh has to say just because he is a fat white guy.

 

[ByWaterBoy]

oh look thoughtless one liner (pic) attacking a side.
I could very well post a pic of several nut jobs on the right, but I hope that this thread can fly above such drivel and turn into a well thought out and intelligent debate.

Please refrain from taking pot shots, at least in this ONE DAMN THREAD!!!

OnePeat, I've already posted that picture. I'm a bit calmer now than when I first read the quotes in the OP so I'm not going to debase this thread more than I already have. But truthfully, liberalism as a word has been bastageized by nonsense affiliations with extreme leftist behaviors and philosophies. Contrary to what Gingrich, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Pearl, Hannity, Crystal and so many others want America to believe, liberalism isn't just a bunch of wacko lefties bent on creating a soviet state. In my mind, it's about finding ways to improve life for the individual while keeping some balance that will also benefit the whole. But if you call me mental, it's likely I'll be that, just for you.

While trying to score cheap points, this author has used outrageous commentary to mash the ideas of a group into an even more confined space. His associating liberal ideology with mental illness does nothing but breed contempt from those he's preaching to. And it only offers more rationale for liberals to despise anything associated with conservative ideas.

 

[City Champ]

The problem is that the title of the thread and literature offered up in the original post denigrate the opposition and marginalize it to a mental disorder.

This does two things:

First, it trivializes actual mental disorders and those people with them, which is insulting and immature.

Second, it puts one side of the discussion on the defensive through slander before any debate has taken place, thus reducing the chances for a real discussion of political, ideological, and philosophical differences.

Both of these reduce the level of intellectual discourse needed for a civil discussion. Taking this thesis serious is disgraceful and disingenuous, and supports the criticisms of the current polarized political climate.

You don't begin a civil debate by deriding the opposing participants as "crazy".

except that the OP's intentions were satirical in nature and his arguments since are all in favor of civil debate and admonishing the tactics of attacking without true substance.

How come you admonished Big E for his post about being a one liner but you didn't say anything to chatawaclan who posted a one liner immediately after you called for civil discourse.

because richard did it already?

 

[BIG E]

what's your point? just because i don't find Garafolo attractive doesn't mean i would immediately discount what she has to say... just as i wouldn't discount anything Rush Limbaugh has to say just because he is a fat white guy.

Actually if I would had never heard her open her mouth I would find her not totally unattractive (not that picture). It's her ramblings, like calling everyone racist that attended a TEA party. I discount a lot of what Rush says. He is totally over the top for entertainment purposes.

 

[City Champ]

I always knew liberals were mentally challenged.

I always knew SaintFanDave was terrible at reading comprehension...

 

[IntenseSaint]

because richard did it already?

Ahhh I see. I over looked it because he handled his with tact.

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Actually if I would had never heard her open her mouth I would find her not totally unattractive. It's her ramblings, like calling everyone racist that attended a TEA party. I discount a lot of what Rush says. He is totally over the top for entertainment purposes.

oh, i discount pretty much everything that Limbaugh has to say-- not because he's a disgusting, obese human being, but because he's a psychopath.

 

[City Champ]

Ahhh I see. I over looked it because he handled his with tact.

He was tactful by pointing out that what that poster did was exactly opposite of what i was requesting or was this your attempt to insult me and my "lack of tact"?

 

[dtc]

The problem is that we have two countries now. There is the Republican USA and the Democrat USA. We like the fight more than we like either of these countries, and we damn sure like it more than abandoning either side and remembering that we are one country. We enjoy hating the other side. We relish it. It is the new national passtime.

How is it that around here I would likely be labeled a liberal, but my old college friends sometimes refer to me as the "token fascist?" It's because we have reached the point in our so-called debating in which you aren't allowed to have a moderate view or have some more liberal views and some more conservative views. You have to be one or the other because it's time to duke it out. The fact of the matter is, we like being polarized. We like it that our neighbor across the street with the Obama sign or our coworker with the McCain bumper sticker can be our enemy. It's fun! And we can never expect better of our politicians as long as we think this is fun. After all, this is a representative republic. Our officials are truly the face of the electorate.

I don't. I think its cheap and lazy. It does, however, fit the fact that Americans are fat, lazy and stupid in general and prefer cheap and shallow to depth and deliberation.

 

[Mojomajik9]

The fact of the matter is, we like being polarized. We like it that our neighbor across the street with the Obama sign or our coworker with the McCain bumper sticker can be our enemy. It's fun! And we can never expect better of our politicians as long as we think this is fun. After all, this is a representative republic. Our officials are truly the face of the electorate.

I think, to a large degree, you're correct. It seems to me that a lot of our fellow citizens want a bogeyman. Just a group of people we can hate and despise and blame for the problems in the country. Because, seemingly, we've gone from "this person's views are wrong or faulty" to "This person is EVIL!" and there isn't room for debate or moderate views. To seek out a middle ground is to basically give in to evil and to lose and GAWD knows we Americans don't lose gracefully.

As Brophy said, it's sad that you have to go to an academic conference to actually hear a civil debate. If it's going to be televised, chances are it will have a lot of yelling and some Jerry Springerism.

 

[KardiacKat]

Mojo, to quote your avatar, "everything's broken."

 

[Mojomajik9]

Mojo, to quote your avatar, "everything's broken."

 

[purvis_guy]

The best way to fix American polititics at the moment is a Constitutional Amendment for term limits for Congress, if it is good enough for the President, it should be good enough for Congress.