The Demonstrations in Minnesota (Update: Now Nationwide){Now International} (1 Viewer)

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CNN is about to interview Malcolm Jenkins. Wonder if they seize of the Brees comments.
 
not2rich said:
I think Dave Chappelle's skit about his white friend "Chip" is a humorous way to illustrate the concept.
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That skit is so funny. Admittedly, of the couple of true friends that I have, only one is a black person but he is one of the best human beings in work and out of work I have ever met. Truly an honor to work alongside him I consider him in my close circle of confidants.
 
James Spader said:
I dunno. Takes a lot of assumptions. Not saying there isn’t. I just wouldn’t use where someone lives. Perhaps incarnation rates for the same crime across races and states would better.
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It is not meant to serve as a one-size fits all scenario. It just illustrates the disadvantages a lot of black people still face today.

People complain about how long ago slavery was and that it should not have a bearing on today, but it truly does and isn't just an excuse.

Generational wealth was literally acquired off of the backs of slaves, and conversely, generational disadvantages were levied against slaves and their descendants.
 
Saintaholic said:
It is not meant to serve as a one-sized fits all scenario. It just illustrates the disadvantages a lot of black people still face today.

People complain about how long ago slavery was and that it should not have a bearing on today, but it truly does and isn't just an excuse.

Generational wealth was literally acquired off of the backs of slaves, and conversely, generational disadvantages were levied against slaves and their descendants.
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For some, damn straight it was off their back but not most I would say. In the end, at least a person can try to move to a better school district but I appreciate you posting so I could take in another point of view. Thank you.
 
James Spader said:
For some, damn straight it was off their back but not most I would say. In the end, at least a person can try to move to a better school district but I appreciate you posting so I could take in another point of view. Thank you.
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Key word, try.

Something else to keep in mind is that economics aren't the only thing impacted here, but so is culture and acceptance of a poor lifestyle. It is hard to get out of a certain type of lifestyle when it is all you know and it is all you see around you.

Many families make it out of that cycle, and thankfully my parents did just that, and despite my grandparents' urging, they refused to live and raise a family in "the hood." Myself, my brother, and maybe 4 more of my 20 or so cousins got our degrees and made it out of that cycle and are living well, in good neighborhoods, with good family structures, but the others remain in the same cycle. Thinking back on it, the ones that "succeeded" were literally the ones whose parents chose to go live in the middle class, mixed-race neighborhoods. The ones that did not are the ones that lived in the proverbial hood areas. Some of them are now either dead, in jail, still in the hood with 4+ kids all from different fathers, strung out on drugs still living with mom and/or dad, and simply put, they are still "about that life."

It is sad thinking back on it, but my mom would tell me stories about how some of my aunts would make fun of her for "trying to go live with the uppity white folks." Another aunt was offended when my mom refused to let her buy my younger brother a gold tooth. I had another aunt that would make fun of the way my brother and I talk since we "sounded so white." I had cousins that would come over to sleep at my house and he was stunned that I hung out with white people in my neighborhood; it was a completely foreign concept to him, having white neighbors.

It's a vicious cycle.
 
James Spader said:
For some, damn straight it was off their back but not most I would say. In the end, at least a person can try to move to a better school district but I appreciate you posting so I could take in another point of view. Thank you.
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Who can move to a better school district? Do you believe that most poor people have that option?
 
WhoDatPhan78 said:
Who can move to a better school district? Do you believe that most poor people have that option?
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Define most and may you please provide some examples of a lack of options so that I make sure I understand you correctly? Saintholic seemed to have options.
 
Saintaholic said:
Key word, try.

Something else to keep in mind is that economics aren't the only thing impacted here, but so is culture and acceptance of a poor lifestyle. It is hard to get out of a certain type of lifestyle when it is all you know and it is all you see around you.

Many families make it out of that cycle, and thankfully my parents did just that, and despite my grandparents' urging, they refused to live and raise a family in "the hood." Myself, my brother, and maybe 4 more of my 20 or so cousins got our degrees and made it out of that cycle and are living well, but the others remain in the same cycle. Thinking back on it, the ones that "succeeded" were literally the ones whose parents chose to go live in the middle class, mixed-race neighborhoods. The ones that did not are the ones that lived in the proverbial hood areas.

It is sad thinking back on it, but my mom would tell me stories about how some of my aunts would make fun of her for "trying to go live with the uppity white folks." Another aunt was offended when my mom refused to let her buy my younger brother a gold tooth. I had another aunt that would make fun of the way my brother and I talk since we "sounded so white."

It's a vicious cycle.
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Thanks for this post.. I wasnt aware of any of that type of stuff, with people like your mom being made fun of for wanting to better their lives.. And this thread is making me think of things I haven’t thought about in years.

Not sure if you’re from NOLA, since we have members from all over- but growing up, we lived for a time in what’s called ‘The East’.. i loved it. . My backyard was the Louisiana Nature Center with all it’s trails and exhibits, and I used to ride my bike to what was, at the time, the largest mall in the country- the Lake Forest Plaza.. But around the time i was 10 or 11, we moved because The East was becoming the home of the black middle class in New Orleans, and the whites were not ok with it... Before we moved away, i had a good friend who I’d ride bikes with all the time.. He was a kid named Donnie, and i remember getting a lot of grief from some of my family members, because Donnie was a black kid.. The one thing I remember most about hanging out with him, is that one day we found out that City Champ, Rickey Jackson, was signing autographs at the brand new Honda dealership on I-10 and Bullard, so we rode our bikes all the way up there.. he completely blew us off, since he had a couple of women hanging all over him, and didnt want to be distracted by some little kids.. but we got our Rickey Jackson autographs!

Thanks for reminding me of all those things.. And Donnie, if you’re a member of SR and grew up near Lake Forest Blvd and Wright Rd in the East- hit me up bro!
 
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