OTAs week 2: Practice Notes & Highlights (5/30) (1 Viewer)

[SonOfNOLA]

Is it a positive sign that TQS isn't at OTAs? Like maybe TQS for Renfrow?

I don’t know if his absence means he’ll be traded, but it does slowly push him down the depth chart. Edwards was the WR3 behind Olave and Shaheed while TQS was present during the first OTAs sessions last week. TQS can’t afford to miss reps among the new WRs.

 

[LAhotsauce]

That is a poor example. Smith was build like a bulldog, and played like one. Neither of them are fair comparison.

Now that we are far enough removed from it, I can admit Steve Smith is the enemy I wish played for us the most. The guy was an absolute monster at 5'9.

Neither Olave nor Shaheed are "slight." They are both athletically built WRs for their heights. Nobody wants a core of hulking WRs. I don't understand what some of yall are looking at.

What's funny is if any currrent Saints WR is "slight" it's AT Perry.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

Neither Olave nor Shaheed are "slight." They are both athletically built WRs for their heights. Nobody wants a core of hulking WRs. I don't understand what some of yall are looking at.

What's funny is if any currrent Saints WR is "slight" it's AT Perry.

It’s ironic that some look at Olave and Sheed as prone to become injured because of size on paper. Yet the bigger WRs on our team are injured more. Thomas, Cam Meredith, and Brandon Coleman come to mind recently. Most of the Top WRs in the league are below 200lbs. Big WRs doesn’t automatically translate to production and availability. We wanted elite-potential speedsters then say they’re small when we finally get Two of them.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Is it a positive sign that TQS isn't at OTAs? Like maybe TQS for Renfrow?

He blocked out a time to be there but couldn’t catch a ride.

 

[St. Geezy]

Shaheed szn activated.

 

[Swampy Saint]

Not many WR's played better than Steve Smith (in his prime)... and at 5'9", he wasn't a giant.

He was Giant pain in the arse for the Saints.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

Shaheed szn activated.

The success Sheed is about to have with Carr is going to be fun to watch. Both him and Olave. Sheed’s going to eat, whether he’s stretching the field or have a ton of YAC on shorter routes to go the distance.

This quote from him on Carr at the end:
“He can put the ball wherever he wants. He throws his receivers open.”

We haven’t had that at QB in so long. We have the perfect two WRs to take advantage of that.

 

[Jesse Custer]

 

[SonOfNOLA]

 

[Jesse Custer]

 

[SweetT]

Is it a positive sign that TQS isn't at OTAs? Like maybe TQS for Renfrow?

 

[bobad]

It’s ironic that some look at Olave and Sheed as prone to become injured because of size on paper. Yet the bigger WRs on our team are injured more. Thomas, Cam Meredith, and Brandon Coleman come to mind recently. Most of the Top WRs in the league are below 200lbs. Big WRs doesn’t automatically translate to production and availability. We wanted elite-potential speedsters then say they’re small when we finally get Two of them.

Totally agree, though it is nice to have one tall, strong WR for situations even if he's the no. 4.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

Totally agree, though it is nice to have one tall, strong WR for situations even iif he's the no. 4.

Between Edwards, Perry and Shaq Davis, two of them should emerge as that go-to situational receiver who can use their 6’3-6’5 bodies to win physical matchups, besides MT.

I think we get spoiled after fixing WR so fast with two great young receivers and expect to have a DK Metcalf as the 3rd or 4th WR.

 

[Snakehead]

It’s ironic that some look at Olave and Sheed as prone to become injured because of size on paper. Yet the bigger WRs on our team are injured more. Thomas, Cam Meredith, and Brandon Coleman come to mind recently. Most of the Top WRs in the league are below 200lbs. Big WRs doesn’t automatically translate to production and availability. We wanted elite-potential speedsters then say they’re small when we finally get Two of them.

Weight isn't the key factor, it's Relative Body Size (RBS) which is weight in pounds divided by height in inches. I made a post about this before the 2020 draft and did the research on what the average top 25 WR size was. The average RBS for a top WR in 2019 was 2.82. There are a few outliers and those are above average in other areas to make up for it. Both Olave and Shaheed are well below 2.82 RBS, but if Shaheed really tried to put on 10lbs on muscle this offseason, then he's probably close.

When I have time, I'll do the research again using the top 25 WRs from 2022. Below are the averages for a top 25 WR from 2019:

Average round drafted: 2.5
Height: 72.5"
Weight: 204.72lbs
RBS: 2.82
Hands: 9.53"
40 time: 4.49
Vertical: 36.34"
Broad Jump: 122.35"
3-Cone: 6.88
20-Yard Shuffle: 4.18

 

[greatshow25]

That is a poor example. Smith was build like a bulldog, and played like one. Neither of them are fair comparison.

Now that we are far enough removed from it, I can admit Steve Smith is the enemy I wish played for us the most. The guy was an absolute monster at 5'9.

I agree a more favorable comparison is Antonio Brown 5’10” 185. He was quick and elusive and caught a ton of balls. He set the record for consecutive games with at least 5 catches and at least 50 yards at 35 games. It ended when Ben was out but he still had 5 for 42. Also as for Shaheed, Brown started out as a return guy.