Indiana Jones 5?

Don't know if others saw it,
there's a scene in the cave where Teddy and the huge bad guy break the rope bridge and fall into the water. Later, we see Indy and Helena escaping from the cave using the same rope bridge, except it's not broken. Or at least it appeared to be not broken. Anyone else catch this? I was wondering if there were scenes cut out, where the fate of Teddy and the huge bad guy didn't involve the broken rope bridge. And due to lazy editing and/or not wanting to film more scenes for how to cross the raging cave river with a broken bridge, they just said, f-it and rolled with it.
 
Don't know if others saw it,
there's a scene in the cave where Teddy and the huge bad guy break the rope bridge and fall into the water. Later, we see Indy and Helena escaping from the cave using the same rope bridge, except it's not broken. Or at least it appeared to be not broken. Anyone else catch this? I was wondering if there were scenes cut out, where the fate of Teddy and the huge bad guy didn't involve the broken rope bridge. And due to lazy editing and/or not wanting to film more scenes for how to cross the raging cave river with a broken bridge, they just said, f-it and rolled with it.
Did it break though? I thought they fell in? Not saying I am right, but I thought they fell in.
 
Did it break though? I thought they fell in? Not saying I am right, but I thought they fell in.
What me and wife "think" we remember, is the top support rope breaking, causing the boards to only be attached on the other side, so their footing was gone and they fell in. And when we see the bridge again, it's not damaged. I don't know, maybe we saw it wrong.
 
Don't know if others saw it,
there's a scene in the cave where Teddy and the huge bad guy break the rope bridge and fall into the water. Later, we see Indy and Helena escaping from the cave using the same rope bridge, except it's not broken. Or at least it appeared to be not broken. Anyone else catch this? I was wondering if there were scenes cut out, where the fate of Teddy and the huge bad guy didn't involve the broken rope bridge. And due to lazy editing and/or not wanting to film more scenes for how to cross the raging cave river with a broken bridge, they just said, f-it and rolled with it.

I actually did notice that
 
We went to see Dial of Destiny last night and I must say, I really enjoyed it. Is it over the top and completely unbelievable? Yes but that is what Indiana Jones is about: that Saturday matinee, over the top type of film where you just strap in and go for a ride. My 20 year old son loves Indiana Jones and has since a little kid. We were discussing why the first three were so successful and widely loved whereas the last two were received with less than favorable reviews. One, obviously, is the time. Raiders, Tomb and Crusade were all 80’s movies. Skull and Dial were 2000’s and arguably, we are a much more jaded and angry society than we were in the past so we all have critical glasses on.

The second thing though is that the first three dealt with religion and the last two were more mystical and fantastical. All of us had some sort of religion in our lives so we could relate to the stories, characters and themes in some sort of fashion. Aliens and dials? Not so much.

With that said though, I did enjoy the movie and thought it was a nice send off for Indiana. Lots of Disney infused fan service but fun nonetheless.

And after the movie, I asked my son what he thought. He said, “TIME TRAVELING NAZI’S!!”
 
finally got around to seeing it.
it was leaps and bounds better than Crystal skull. Crystal Skull action was Indiana Jones, but the story wasn't. This one went back to what it was good at.

the scene with the bridge. my take on it was, it wasn't the same bridge. it seemed there were a few different passages in that cave. not unreasonable there were multiple bridges.

I was disappointed that Indy wasn't the one who took out the big guy. I kept waiting on it..lol
I did like the scene at the end where she was telling him where it didn't hurt. a good throw back from the original..
 
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny star Boyd Holbrook defends the film's wild ending, which has proven somewhat controversial. Directed by James Mangold, the new sequel serves as Harrison Ford's fifth and final time playing the intrepid archeologist. Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny follows Indy as he quests after Archimedes' Antikythera device, with the climax involving the hero traveling back in time to 212 BCE to the Siege of Syracuse.

Now, Holbrook, who plays villainous henchman Klaber, defends the Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny ending. In a recent interview with THR, the actor argues that the ending feels "earned" and praises Mangold's thoughtful approach to it. Check out Holbrook's full comment below:


“I thought it was a bold, earned choice. It’s so cleverly speckled in throughout the film. Those seeds are planted, and it’s preparing you for it, subliminally. You don’t really know it until it’s happening and it’s so elegantly done that it’s not farcical whatsoever. It bottlenecks to a really touching moment where you feel that Indiana has earned this moment and wants to stay. When I saw it, I was surprised that it grabbed me by the throat. I was a little emotional even though I’m so close to it.”

The Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny ending is a big swing and, while some critics praised the bold choice, it proved to be a little too much for others. On the surface, the decision to travel back in time to 212 BCE does seem like a fairly significant departure from what the franchise is known for, but it's not actually without precedent.

As Mangold himself has argued, "the relic always defines the third act" of every movie in the Indiana Jones franchise, "and the power of the relic always defines the magic of the movie." In Raiders of the Lost Ark, for example, the titular Ark of the Covenant is the relic Indy is questing after, and the third act sees this relic quite literally unleash the power of God to destroy the Nazis that Ford's hero has been facing off against throughout the film...............

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/ne...p&cvid=fc5148d61088429cb2306e02d9c58de6&ei=30
 
I saw it this weekend

I liked it. it was miles better than Crystal Skulls and a worthy Indiana Jones movie. Mads was really good as the villain. However it is a distant 4th after the original trilogy
So you're saying it's not even as good as the extremely mediocre "Temple of Doom"? That's decidedly not a ringing endorsement.
Think I'll just stick with "Raiders" and "Last Crusade." Maybe I'll watch it sometime when I'm out of interesting things to watch after it's on Disney+.
 
I saw it a week ago. Not as good as the OG trilogy for me but it was a very enjoyable Indiana Jones movie and I'm glad we got to see Ford in the role one last time. I thought the ending sequence was a cool idea for the most part and it worked for me, didn't realize it was controversial at all.
So you're saying it's not even as good as the extremely mediocre "Temple of Doom"? That's decidedly not a ringing endorsement.
Think I'll just stick with "Raiders" and "Last Crusade." Maybe I'll watch it sometime when I'm out of interesting things to watch after it's on Disney+.
Saw this as I was typing. Just goes to show how subjective it all is. Temple of Doom is my favorite movie from the OG trilogy. It's certainly not the best movie in a technical sense but it's the one I enjoy watching the most. Could be that it's the first one I ever saw but I've seen all of them multiple times now and my opinion hasn't changed.
 
I saw it a week ago. Not as good as the OG trilogy for me but it was a very enjoyable Indiana Jones movie and I'm glad we got to see Ford in the role one last time. I thought the ending sequence was a cool idea for the most part and it worked for me, didn't realize it was controversial at all.

Saw this as I was typing. Just goes to show how subjective it all is. Temple of Doom is my favorite movie from the OG trilogy. It's certainly not the best movie in a technical sense but it's the one I enjoy watching the most. Could be that it's the first one I ever saw but I've seen all of them multiple times now and my opinion hasn't changed.
Interesting. Temple of Doom had some good action sequences to it, and some definite intrigue in the villains and plot, but I simply couldn't abide Kate Capshaw's character, nor did I like Short Round. They were insufferable characters and really ruined the film for me, especially her. Also, the whole Indy "mentally enslaved" thing and bonking him with a torch to revive him seemed really dumb and not at all believable.

Last Crusade is decidedly my favourite Indy film, but Raiders is only second by a hair's breadth.
 
I thought it was pretty good, way better than Crystal Skull. I do think it's hard to hold it up against the first three, mostly because those movies are literally classics and have been a part of the cultural milieu for the last four decades, but I felt it was a worthy entry.
 
one for the bluray collection,most of them are now days. As far as the english fascination with egypt,definitely. Well of souls ,egyptian sand,way more intriguing way more mystical mysterious interesting than india. The bad guy Nazis, first one had it all. The rest,well last crusade came close. The whole series is above average however.
 
article on the future of the franchise

After the lackluster box office I don't if we'll ever see Indy again at all
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In the minds of many, there is one name that is associated with action and adventure: Indiana Jones. While there have been younger incarnations of the character played by different actors, Harrison Ford is the face associated with the Indiana Jones franchise. It's hard to imagine that the series would have lasted as long without him and if the original pick for the role, Tom Selleck, had gotten the part

Ford has been playing the role of Indiana Jones since 1981's Raiders of the Lost Ark, and in 2023, 42 years after the first film in the franchise, Ford played the role one last time in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny from director James Mangold. The fifth Indiana Jones film has been long-awaited and arrived 15 years after the last film, 2008's Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. The gap between Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and the newest film is almost as long as the gap between The Last Crusade and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Yet the desire to see Ford return as the famous archeologist was still there.

But what happens to the Indiana Jones franchise after Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny? All the filmmakers involved have said this will be Ford's last time playing the character, so the common theory is that this will be the last film in the franchise. Will that be the case? Can Indiana Jones as a franchise endure without Indiana Jones himself, Harrison Ford? Here is what could be in store for the future of the franchise.

Batman Begins and Casino Royale premiered in back-to-back years in the mid-2000s, starting a trend where practically every major Hollywood property was given the reboot treatment. A reboot involves throwing out the entire continuity and restarting the franchise with a fresh new approach. While this treatment is sometimes welcome, more often than not it is met by great hesitation from a fanbase that does not want to feel like the past films or their love for them are disregarded.

While Indiana Jones does not have a big, vast, rich mythology between each film, each installment can be viewed with no viewing of the others. The purpose of a reboot would allow a new take on the popular character, reworking elements of the character or even telling new stories with the character, like expanding his relationship and history with characters Marion Ravenwood, Marcus Brody, Sollah, and Belloq.

The biggest obstacle for general audiences and fans would be accepting another actor in the role of Indiana Jones that is not Harrison Ford. Unlike James Bond, who is a literary character and has been played by multiple Bond actors over the past 60 years, Indiana Jones is an original film character tied to Harrison Ford.

Recasting an actor for one of the most iconic characters may seem difficult, but it is not impossible. In 2009, J.J. Abrams' Star Trek introduced a new recast crew of the Starship Enterprise, and characters like Kirk and Spock were as linked to their original actors as Ford is to Indiana Jones. However, audiences accepted Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, and the rest of the cast who now have loyal fans of their own and are eagerly anticipating their return. A new actor, a new approach, and a new look for Indiana Jones may seem hard to imagine, but it is not something that should be ruled out.

Pass The Hat On To A New Character​

While the reboot used to be the popular trend, it is the legacy sequel that is now becoming dominant in pop culture, with the exception of animated classics. Lucasfilm has already done this with the Star Wars sequel trilogy. While it seems impossible to hand over the franchise from the titular character, after six movies the Rocky films morphed into the Creed franchise, so it is possible.............

The most interesting possibility, and arguably the most fitting, is to see the return of Short Round to the franchise. Indiana Jones actor Ke Huy Quan, who played Short Round in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, recently wowed critics and audiences with his performance in Everything Everywhere All At Once, which marked his return from acting after retiring in the 1990s. The idea of an older Short Round reuniting with Indiana Jones to carry on his good friend's legacy seems like a great way to honor the franchise. Plus, he already has extensive fight training, being a stunt coordinator for decades.

Short Round is a well-liked character. Many fans would be pleased to see his return. Being as the character is already established in the world of Indiana Jones, and he has a pre-sold audience, Lucasfilm could experiment with the formatting and make a new but connected franchise. They could avoid fans directly comparing the new theoretical film with the older ones and the new characters with their predecessors. Short Round already exists as a character, so as long as it is consistent with his character and the world that he exists in, it can be marketed more as a continuation rather than a replacement.

End Indiana Jones​

The common assumption is that Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny will be the final chapter in the Indiana Jones series. Kathleen Kennedy, president of Lucasfilm, has already said she has no intention of rebooting the franchise and said Indiana Jones will never be recast. It appears that once Ford is done, the franchise is done. While it is certainly sad to think that there will be no more Indiana Jones movies, that is not necessarily a bad thing...........

 
Short video on the De-aging sequence

 

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