A positive way to look at the Carr signing (2 Viewers)

[Swampy Saint]

Answer this question honestly, would the Saints have ever embarrassed and benched a perfectly healthy Drew Bree’s after his first 9 years and probowls, in an effort to save him to ensure he doesn’t get his guaranteed money? (Had Carr gotten injured in the last games, then he’d get that guaranteed money).

I would say no.

 

[MikeyF]

We are always in a win it all now mode. The Saints are not a NFL team to crash and burn then attempt a four year rebuild.
Also any year, any draft , we can still find the future QB with the IT factor.

We did this for the fist 20 years of our existence.
The people who keep repeating this idiocy of " tearing it down and rebuilding" either weren't Saints fans at the time or weren't born yet...

The "win always" mode are your best teams year in and year out!

 

[Cbarra87]

We did this for the fist 20 years of our existence.
The people who keep repeating this idiocy of " tearing it down and rebuilding" either weren't Saints fans at the time or weren't born yet...

The "win always" mode are your best teams year in and year out!

That's not necessarily true. The Eagles under Chip Kelly were serial underperformers, despite being labeled a "Dream Team", the Rams loaded up on talent with Jared Goff, and failed to bring the trophy home (they managed one with Stafford and are likely done for a while), and there are many other examples of bloated rosters that failed. Our own Saints went for broke year in and year out for a decade with Drew Brees, and still failed to make it to the big game. Our one Super Bowl win, coincidentally, came from having a roster of savvy value FA signings and good drafting.

 

[Rexman100]

I would say no.

well thats the disfuntional Raiders. Imagine the lack of trust and ill-will he had for the Raiders FO throughout his career. Im sure the best is yet to come with Carr now that he's in a better situation.

 

[Swampy Saint]

well thats the disfuntional Raiders. Imagine the lack of trust and ill-will he had for the Raiders FO throughout his career. Im sure the best is yet to come with Carr now that he's in a better situation.

I’m banking on it.

 

[Clarkey]

If we did get a new coach, would that mean he brings in a near champ D? Maybe a new coach might be a great offensive guy then our D slips to 25.

I like Dennis as a defensive coordination, but think he’s benefited tremendously from having a top tiered defence with the Saints for so long.

Translation? Someone else *could* come in and do similar with this roster, as a head coach, or just on defence. Just my take.

This QB signing could extend his employment in New Orleans much further than most would have predicted.

 

[MikeyF]

Our own Saints went for broke year in and year out for a decade with Drew Brees, and still failed to make it to the big game. Our one Super Bowl win, coincidentally, came from having a roster of savvy value FA signings and good drafting.

but with a FA QB... and we didn't just tear it down and rebuild...

That is some very serious "double speak"...

 

[Cbarra87]

but with a FA QB... and we didn't just tear it down and rebuild...

That is some very serious "double speak"...

I think you're confused by what I meant. I never claimed we tore anything down. Look at my previous post. I don't think tearing anything down is productive, and I'm not claiming that we ever did tear anything down. I'm also not against the Carr signing, if that's what you're trying to insinuate by referencing Brees. I was simply saying that better teams with longevity are built through careful FA signings, and the draft, versus constantly 'loading up'. I'm curious to know what you mean by double speak, and why you put it in quotations? Was I vague at some point?

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Hopefully MT13 stays as well.

Makes it far more palatable for me if he does. Huge MT fan. He just needs to have some health luck.

 

[Rexman100]

I like Dennis as a defensive coordination, but think he’s benefited tremendously from having a top tiered defence with the Saints for so long.

Translation? Someone else *could* come in and do similar with this roster, as a head coach, or just on defence. Just my take.

This QB signing could extend his employment in New Orleans much further than most would have predicted.

he benefitted greatly from the saints D, because he didn’t have to go far to get advice on how to put it together and which players were needed. All he had to do was to find the closest mirror. One thing that is consistent in football, is if you’re a great coordinator, you‘ll have success in a short period. For example, if you have a team with the worst defense. Then you hire Gregg Williams, you can bet In two to three years that same defense will be a dominating blitzing monster. DA has proved the same. That’s valuable. But great coaches like Andy Reid are able to assemble both a dominant offense and defense. SP will eventually have a great offense in Denver, but unless he hires a great D coord, his D will be terrible. Hes proven that. Da has yet to prove that he can assemble an offense. The fact that he went ALL out for Carr tells me that he understands that a better than average QB is required. Thats a HUGE move in the right direction of assembling a great offense. We”ll see.

 

[Infoman]

The only negative thing you can say is…. We didn’t land an elite QB. But those guys just don’t become available…. And if by a miracle they do…. They are either injured, have heavy baggage, cost you an entire draft, cripple your cap…. Or all of the above.

He’s a major upgrade in every sense of the word, on a good deal. It hardly ever gets better than that.

The only thing better is to draft a stud - which is also hard as hell to do.

It’s all positive for now…

 

[ilvdsnts]

Answer this question honestly, would the Saints have ever embarrassed and benched a perfectly healthy Drew Bree’s after his first 9 years and probowls, in an effort to save him to ensure he doesn’t get his guaranteed money? (Had Carr gotten injured in the last games, then he’d get that guaranteed money).

No, and they certainly wouldn’t have done it to Drew Brees either.