Being Poor (2 Viewers)

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Weeelllll, let’s be a little fair. Look at the date on the first one…we ALL know what’s happening there. That’s not about corporate greed…that’s about somebody calling in on Christmas week and screwing over colleagues who have to cover the work of the person calling in.
 
Weeelllll, let’s be a little fair. Look at the date on the first one…we ALL know what’s happening there. That’s not about corporate greed…that’s about somebody calling in on Christmas week and screwing over colleagues who have to cover the work of the person calling in.
that might be part of it, but it's more about a middle management nimrod being a puppet but adopting an illfitting persona
 
Interesting read
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One day, I received an email from a stranger about how the poor are responsible for their own poverty.

It wasn’t the first: I get these missives frequently. These commenters like to claim that those who are economically on the edge just need to “pull themselves up by their bootstraps”, and that people who are struggling probably deserve to do so.

Why? Because these Americans took on educational debt, had children – or even got divorced. And so angry readers call other people out when they accrue such debt but also admonish them when they have not had adequate job retraining to be employable, not seeing the paradox.

These audience members may also blame women for not marrying. And families for living in a city where the cost of living is high, ignoring that that’s where many of the jobs are. They also like to critique individuals for actually wanting to do what they love for a living.

Sadly, these blame-mongers aren’t alone: studies have found that many Republicans think successis something one achieves alone through hard work. And if we don’t manage to do so, it’s our own damn fault.

I’m familiar with this stream of invective because I’ve spent much of the last nine years reporting about the falling middle class and working poor and running a poverty non-profit to boot.

But here was something about that specific comment – in which the writer claimed that we were “all products of our choices” and had to live with the consequences – that made me decide I wanted to get to the bottom of this refrain.

How did this narrative and its flip side – the shame and blame of those who are not victors – become writ?

In order to better understand this mindset, I read books and political speeches going back to the 19th century, all with a similar through-line: Americans should thrive and rise on pluck and hard work alone.

From Walden to The Fountainhead, from the political speeches of Herbert Hoover through Trump, I found an ideological script for the vitriol the letter writers expressed. I also discovered a rich vein of hypocrisy – the Horatio Alger story was actually one of teenagers meeting wealthy benefactors and Alger himself had been run out of his ministry for pedophilic acts.

The cringey Ayn Rand novels that shout we must all survive on our own may be worshipped by wealthy technologists, but Rand herself became dependent in later life, relying on social security and Medicare.

The writings of these compromised figures nevertheless are at the foundation of the thinking of those taking outsized pride in their supposedly self-reliant lives: even though they had had a teen mom, they now earned six figures, one wrote; in the words of another, how they managed to save money yet “had a car, a TV and food” while others like them had not.

Taken together, these responses seemed to be a kind of nationwide bullying of the poor.

I then reported around the US to document the lived experience of ordinary people who had suffered because of our culture’s relentless obsession with bootstrapping. These were different sides of the self-made-man storyline.

There were those who were oppressed by the cult of self-reliance, both monetarily and emotionally. There were also those who benefited from it thanks to inherited wealth or other kinds of inborn privilege who had, in contrast, been thought to be all too deserving their whole lives……




The myth of the rugged individual is pure bull. I know I’ve said it before but the greatest trick the rich in the USA have ever pulled off is convincing the poor it’s their own fault they’re poor.

The wealth and power addicts always ensure their own well being to the detriment of every other demographic. Corporate greed is rampant (I work for a company who won’t even pay mileage to attend company mandated training 2 hours away) and inflation continues to worsen.

Yup, retiring out of the US. 5 more years and I’m done.
 
To where? Do you know yet?
Possibly Domenica in the Caribbean. Buy a house there and you qualify for citizenship. Beautiful tropical island with friendly people, and still largely undiscovered due to the absence or a deep-water harbor.

Other possibilities include Portugal, Vietnam, Laos, and Colombia. I’ll give the nod to Domenica at this point.

Edit: another contender is Montserrat. The view of Margherita Bay

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Putting this here - I thought it was amusing that's why I put it in the memes thread but it and the conversation that followed are better served here

Is there a way a mod can move the responses from the funny memes thread here instead?
 
because if you say that out loud you will be accused of beng socialist, communist and anti-caplitalists...
Are you talking about in general or on this site? If the latter, you’re overstating it. If the former…well, you’re not wrong in a lot of places :hihi: But in places where you wouldn’t…well, accusations of racism and transphobia abound similarly. People tend to suck everywhere 🤷‍♂️
 
Are you talking about in general or on this site? If the latter, you’re overstating it. If the former…well, you’re not wrong in a lot of places :hihi: But in places where you wouldn’t…well, accusations of racism and transphobia abound similarly. People tend to suck everywhere 🤷‍♂️
in general. not this site. on this site or PDB, its only a few specific ones...
Lets just say majority of them wear red hats..
 


Putting this here - I thought it was amusing that's why I put it in the memes thread but it and the conversation that followed are better served here

Is there a way a mod can move the responses from the funny memes thread here instead?

and just to piggy back on this:

Why does "sacrifices need to be made" always mean cutting safety net services for working class and not taxing the bejesus out of billionaires (companies and individuals)?
 
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