N/S Bills QB Josh Allen is the 2024 MVP!!! (2 Viewers)

[Optimus Prime]

I’ve long thought that Offensive Player of the Year was MVP runner up or consolation prize for player who should have won MVP but lost out to media darling

And some years Defensive Player of the Year is player who should have won MVP but since defense doesn’t win MVP take this instead

 

[jasonsw]

Yes, that is true. It is also true they went to the SB 2 years ago without Barkley. He's had an impact, no doubt and his 2K season was great. Is it MVP worthy in a QB dominated MVP NFL, it wasn't. He did not receive a single 1st Place vote. It was a close vote between Allen and Lamar, but Barkley wasn't even in the conversation when it came to the voters.

Josh Allen: 27-22-1-0-0: 383
Lamar Jackson: 23-26-0-1-0: 362
Saquon Barkley: 0-1-25-19-2: 120
Joe Burrow: 0-1-15-10-12: 82
Jared Goff: 0-0-6-5-19: 47
Patrick Mahomes: 0-0-3-8-6: 31

Wow, that is mind boggling that the winningest qb in today's NFL got so little consideration.

 

[No2DC]

Pretty good for a mid round pick
sarcasm off

 

[Snakehead]

Wow, that is mind boggling that the winningest qb in today's NFL got so little consideration.

Not really, he doesn't have to carry the team anymore. They have a running game and a good defense. He steps up an makes playes when needed, but these other guys have to carry their team.

 

[faceman]

Yep, it's Barkley and not really that close. But RBs rarely win MVPs unfortunately.

Yep, Eagles aren't playing in the SB without him.

 

[RaginCajun83]

Should of been Barkley

 

[jahsoul357]

We all know who the real MVP is. This was a don't give Mahomes the MVP trophy vote.

It's similar to 2017-2018 in Cleveland when LeBron finished 11th in MVP voting. There sure wasn't 10 players better than LeBron and he carried his team to.the finals

Ain't no way you saw Spag's defense drag the Chiefs this past season and believe that Mahomes was MVP...lol

Lol, I know someone here who will tell anyone that'll listen (or even if they don't listen) that Mahomes is and has always been a system QB and little more....

System QB isn't even a negative term. Every successful QB has benefitted from the system that they are in but you would actually have a harder time explaining how he isn't one.

Without Allen the Bills wouldn't even make playoffs.

This is HIGHLY debatable. Do they win 13 games? Absolutely not. Do they win the AFC East with the Jets and Patriots crapshow and Tua missing 33% of the season and Snoop Huntley and Skylar Thompson starting? More than likely...lol. It's all hindsight now but the Bills won the AFC East week 11..lol. We also forget how good that Bill's defense is.

The thing that I find ironic is a lot of fans (some vocal ones coming from the Bills) putting down Lamar Jackson's MVP because they want to look at the passing aspect of it but Josh Allen got the MVP the season Lamar Jackson obliterated him in terms of throwing the ball (running the ball as well). I honestly think it all came down to Derrick Henry. While he almost rushed for 2000 yards, him and Cook led the league in rushing TDs.

I will say this. Saquon was MVP worthy during the regular season but if voting went into the post season, he would have been unanimous MVP..

 

[sfidc3]

While Josh Allen had a great year, Barkley had an historical one.....just another reason I don't take the NFL so seriously any longer....

 

[St. Geezy]

 

[TribuneUK]

The straw man continues.

Once there was no possible objective measure left to excuse someone's favourite QB's repeated failings, it was time to turn to the old 'Well, no QB is successful unless the team and coach make them so' - not Mahomes, not Brady, not Manning apparently

No one believes it.

 

[jahsoul357]

The straw man continues.

Once there was no possible objective measure left to excuse someone's favourite QB's repeated failings, it was time to turn to the old 'Well, no QB is successful unless the team and coach make them so' - not Mahomes, not Brady, not Manning apparently

No one believes it.

Mahomes has Andy Reid and has run the exact same system his entire career.
Brady had Charlie Weis and every OC the Patriots built on the offense that Weis installed. He tried to run Arians offense and that lasted for half a season before he went back to the New England system he ran his entire career.
Manning had the same OC (Tom Moore) the entire time he was in Indy. When he went to Denver, he brought the system with him, therefore running the same system that he has his entire career. And this isn't even talking about the the roller coaster before Caldwell became his QB coach.

Let's make it personal. Drew's success started with the system that Sean Payton put around him and he ran that system (and a modified version later in his career) his entire time as a Saint.

You not understanding this simple thing that every QB (especially Brady) talks about doesn't make any of this false.

 

[TribuneUK]

Trying to equalise some of the best QBs to ever play the game with one that's consistently underwhelmed is the act of a desperate man.

No one believes this straw man. It's as transparent an excuse as all the others.