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I grew up in DC metro area. I started watching football shortly after Brian Mitchell started playing. This article is this first time I’ve ever heard him and hall of fame mentioned

I’ll admit when I think of him the first thing I think of is the time he took a kickoff and kneeled down. Only he wasn’t in the end zone, he was like on the half yard line and he got absolutely demolished

If Art Monk, who held every major receiving record when he retired, and should have been in the hall right away had to wait so long (still a sore spot in DC), the career leader in return yards may not get in ever

If Devin Hester gets in one day, maybe Mitchell does one day too

I also forgot he played for anyone other than Washington
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On the Saturday night before the Super Bowl, the Pro Football Hall of Fame will announce its 2023 class. Brian Mitchell won’t be in it. Again. That’s ridiculous. Let’s change it.


“I just have a lot of respect for him, and I think our teams did,” Joe Gibbs said. “Certainly, if there’s a way to get him in the Hall of Fame, we need to do it.”


“If you’re evaluating for great players that love the game and understand the game,” Andy Reid said, “he would have to be one of them.”

Here is a list of players who gained more all-purpose yards than Brian Mitchell: Jerry Rice.


Jerry Rice and … who? Jerry Rice and nobody.

That’s who.


The list of players who had more kick returns and kick return yards:


The list of players who had more punt returns and punt return yards:


But here’s the thing about Mitchell’s candidacy for the Hall of Fame: It’s not just about overlooking Brian Mitchell. It’s about overlooking what coaches constantly tell us is a third of the game: special teams.

“When I talk about our Super Bowl teams, I always say that we started with special teams,” Gibbs said by phone last month. “Our first meeting of each day was special teams. I always felt like special teams was the heart of your team because I think all the guys that played just offense or just defense, they had such tremendous respect for the guys that played special teams. There’s guys that appreciate the courage it takes to stand down there and field a punt when you got 11 guys coming down to try and kill you.”


That was Mitchell. He arrived in Washington as a fifth-round pick in 1990. He was a college quarterback at Louisiana, but Gibbs told him the best way to make the team was as a do-whatever-was-asked return man. In a preseason game that August, he received the first kickoff of his life. He returned it 92 yards for a touchdown.

In a 14-year career — 10 in Washington, three in Philadelphia and one with the New York Giants — he gained 19,013 yards on punt and kick returns.

Not only is that the most ever, no one else is within 4,000 yards of him. He returned 13 punts and kicks for touchdowns, behind only Devin Hester.

His style: You’re running at me? I’m going to run at you…….







 
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Watched every game this guy played at UL (USL then). I have never seen a guy do what he did. But I took it with a grain is salt given our competition (we were 1-1 against Brett Favre and So Miss)

I also tried to watch as many Redskins games while he was there and the results were the same. I think he is second or third all time combined yards in the history of the NFL

That’s HOF stats. He should be in
 
I grew up in DC metro area. I started watching football shortly after Brian Mitchell started playing. This article is this first time I’ve ever heard him and hall of fame mentioned

I’ll admit when I think of him the first thing I think of is the time he took a kickoff and kneeled down. Only he wasn’t in the end zone, he was like on the half yard line and he got absolutely demolished

If Art Monk, who held every major receiving record when he retired, and should have been in the hall right away had to wait so long (still a sore spot in DC), the career leader in return yards may not get in ever

If Devin Hester gets in one day, maybe Mitchell does one day too

I also forgot he played for anyone other than Washington
=======================

On the Saturday night before the Super Bowl, the Pro Football Hall of Fame will announce its 2023 class. Brian Mitchell won’t be in it. Again. That’s ridiculous. Let’s change it.


“I just have a lot of respect for him, and I think our teams did,” Joe Gibbs said. “Certainly, if there’s a way to get him in the Hall of Fame, we need to do it.”


“If you’re evaluating for great players that love the game and understand the game,” Andy Reid said, “he would have to be one of them.”

Here is a list of players who gained more all-purpose yards than Brian Mitchell: Jerry Rice.


Jerry Rice and … who? Jerry Rice and nobody.

That’s who.


The list of players who had more kick returns and kick return yards:


The list of players who had more punt returns and punt return yards:


But here’s the thing about Mitchell’s candidacy for the Hall of Fame: It’s not just about overlooking Brian Mitchell. It’s about overlooking what coaches constantly tell us is a third of the game: special teams.

“When I talk about our Super Bowl teams, I always say that we started with special teams,” Gibbs said by phone last month. “Our first meeting of each day was special teams. I always felt like special teams was the heart of your team because I think all the guys that played just offense or just defense, they had such tremendous respect for the guys that played special teams. There’s guys that appreciate the courage it takes to stand down there and field a punt when you got 11 guys coming down to try and kill you.”


That was Mitchell. He arrived in Washington as a fifth-round pick in 1990. He was a college quarterback at Louisiana, but Gibbs told him the best way to make the team was as a do-whatever-was-asked return man. In a preseason game that August, he received the first kickoff of his life. He returned it 92 yards for a touchdown.

In a 14-year career — 10 in Washington, three in Philadelphia and one with the New York Giants — he gained 19,013 yards on punt and kick returns.

Not only is that the most ever, no one else is within 4,000 yards of him. He returned 13 punts and kicks for touchdowns, behind only Devin Hester.

His style: You’re running at me? I’m going to run at you…….








Here's a name you may or may not have ever heard of in your lifetime since he died of AIDS in the mid/late 80's but during his long and winding career, he compiled IMHO, a HOF-worthy career as a TE, Jerry Smith. He played for the old Redskins for over a decade and was apart of their 1972 Super Bowl VII squad that lost, 14-7, to the unbeaten Miami Dolphins, and IIRC, was voted to 4-5 Pro Bowls over the course of his career. His overall career stats, as a TE, are compatible to former Raiders/Colts TE Raymond Chester (being a DC native, your parents or older Colts/Redskins fans on here will remember him) but like with Chester's career, Jerry Smith has sort of been forgotten and very much over-looked in terms of being one of the best at his position during the 1970's.

One of the reasons why, I suspect, might explain Smith's being over-looked and his career and legacy since his death could be long-stemming homophobia against gay players or sports stars in general. While mainstream public opinion or attitudes towards LGBT community had thankfully become more enlightened and improved over the past 2 decades, 45-50 years ago, they were still viewed as societal outcasts, the DSM-IV actually had homosexuality listed as a mental disorder as late as the mid-70's, in many states, if it was discovered one was gay/lesbian, one could lose their job, livelihood, profession, and while Jerry Smith never officially came as gay publicly (despite doing it privately in front of his family in early 1980's in Texas), most of his Redskins teammates, including former HC Vince Lombardi, knew he was and in fact one of his domestic partners was a former closeted gay player himself.
 
Watched every game this guy played at UL (USL then). I have never seen a guy do what he did. But I took it with a grain is salt given our competition (we were 1-1 against Brett Favre and So Miss)

I also tried to watch as many Redskins games while he was there and the results were the same. I think he is second or third all time combined yards in the history of the NFL

That’s HOF stats. He should be in
ULL if you mean Lafayette otherwise It's Louisville.
 
He was a really good player for a long time. If Steve Tasker is in the HOF? C'mon, should be a no-brainer....
 
He was a really good player for a long time. If Steve Tasker is in the HOF? C'mon, should be a no-brainer....
Sf, being a long-time Md. native and Baltimore resident, if you're aware of some of the older mid/late 70's Colts Pro-Bowlers, then you've likely heard of former Raiders/Baltimore Colts Pro Bowl TE Raymond Chester. He began his career with the Oakland Raiders in 1972 and after several decent seasons, he was traded to Baltimore before the 1975 season and had a three-year stretch (75-77) where he mightve been the best Colts TE since HOF John Mackey, who had retired after the 1974 season. He left the Colts following the 1977 season due to conflicts with Colts FO and its drunken, loudmouth, frankly, idiotic owner, Robert Irsay (a man who still attracts significant hatred and derision from Baltimore-area sports fans 55 and older).

My question to you, is this: based on his overall career statistics, do you think Chester is a HOF caliber TE based on the context of the time he played in the NFL and overall production he amassed at his position. Chester won a Super Bowl with Oakland in 1980 and mostly played on very good, often great perennial playoff teams. if you ask other SR.com members on here and Md. residents like Saintsmdterps, who grew up being diehard Colts fans, their response, I'd like to think, would be yes.

I sort of raised this question in my early reply to Optimus Prime in his original thread about Brian Mitchell being a HOF-worthy special teams player? BTW, I also concur with you about Tasker being a HOF, in fact Tasker wasnt such a bad, talented #3 WR at times and made some big, crucial plays in the postseason during Bills four consecutive SB appearances in the early 1990's.
 
Brian Mitchell is oddly the only NFL player I’ve ever asked for an autograph.

In 1994 he came to my school in Baton Rouge to visit one of his old teachers who was now teaching at my school in town.

He was wearing his Super Bowl ring from the 91’ Skins and a let me get a close look at it. He seemed very impressed that I recognized him and I handed him my English notebook and he signed one of the lined paper pages with a ballpoint pen.

Anyway, he was very cool and super friendly.

It was a fun memory.
 
Sf, being a long-time Md. native and Baltimore resident, if you're aware of some of the older mid/late 70's Colts Pro-Bowlers, then you've likely heard of former Raiders/Baltimore Colts Pro Bowl TE Raymond Chester. He began his career with the Oakland Raiders in 1972 and after several decent seasons, he was traded to Baltimore before the 1975 season and had a three-year stretch (75-77) where he mightve been the best Colts TE since HOF John Mackey, who had retired after the 1974 season. He left the Colts following the 1977 season due to conflicts with Colts FO and its drunken, loudmouth, frankly, idiotic owner, Robert Irsay (a man who still attracts significant hatred and derision from Baltimore-area sports fans 55 and older).

My question to you, is this: based on his overall career statistics, do you think Chester is a HOF caliber TE based on the context of the time he played in the NFL and overall production he amassed at his position. Chester won a Super Bowl with Oakland in 1980 and mostly played on very good, often great perennial playoff teams. if you ask other SR.com members on here and Md. residents like Saintsmdterps, who grew up being diehard Colts fans, their response, I'd like to think, would be yes.

I sort of raised this question in my early reply to Optimus Prime in his original thread about Brian Mitchell being a HOF-worthy special teams player? BTW, I also concur with you about Tasker being a HOF, in fact Tasker wasnt such a bad, talented #3 WR at times and made some big, crucial plays in the postseason during Bills four consecutive SB appearances in the early 1990's.

Actually I was only in MD from 1989 - 2022 so that was before my time here...But I remember Raymond Chester, I think he was a very good TE who had a few great years, I mean he was better than some in the HOF now for sure but will he get in? Not sure....and TBH I don't consider the NFL HOF legit really anyways....

Tasker only had a few years where he actually had catches and his most active year he had maybe 30 or so.....I don't consider his WR role in anyway justification that he made the HOF....when part time players like Tasker make it but the Ricky Jacksons/Sam Mills have to wait and many others are still waiting, it makes me not take it seriously....

Brian Mitchell is oddly the only NFL player I’ve ever asked for an autograph.

In 1994 he came to my school in Baton Rouge to visit one of his old teachers who was now teaching at my school in town.

He was wearing his Super Bowl ring from the 91’ Skins and a let me get a close look at it. He seemed very impressed that I recognized him and I handed him my English notebook and he signed one of the lined paper pages with a ballpoint pen.

Anyway, he was very cool and super friendly.

It was a fun memory.

He has a good local rep in the DC area, I've had a few friends that have met him, and they say he is very friendly and approachable....
 
Agreed he should be in. And man those teams were good back in the day, Art Monk and Gary Clark were a heckuva 1-2 punch at wideout.
 
I grew up in DC metro area. I started watching football shortly after Brian Mitchell started playing. This article is this first time I’ve ever heard him and hall of fame mentioned

I’ll admit when I think of him the first thing I think of is the time he took a kickoff and kneeled down. Only he wasn’t in the end zone, he was like on the half yard line and he got absolutely demolished

If Art Monk, who held every major receiving record when he retired, and should have been in the hall right away had to wait so long (still a sore spot in DC), the career leader in return yards may not get in ever

If Devin Hester gets in one day, maybe Mitchell does one day too

I also forgot he played for anyone other than Washington
=======================

On the Saturday night before the Super Bowl, the Pro Football Hall of Fame will announce its 2023 class. Brian Mitchell won’t be in it. Again. That’s ridiculous. Let’s change it.


“I just have a lot of respect for him, and I think our teams did,” Joe Gibbs said. “Certainly, if there’s a way to get him in the Hall of Fame, we need to do it.”


“If you’re evaluating for great players that love the game and understand the game,” Andy Reid said, “he would have to be one of them.”

Here is a list of players who gained more all-purpose yards than Brian Mitchell: Jerry Rice.


Jerry Rice and … who? Jerry Rice and nobody.

That’s who.


The list of players who had more kick returns and kick return yards:


The list of players who had more punt returns and punt return yards:


But here’s the thing about Mitchell’s candidacy for the Hall of Fame: It’s not just about overlooking Brian Mitchell. It’s about overlooking what coaches constantly tell us is a third of the game: special teams.

“When I talk about our Super Bowl teams, I always say that we started with special teams,” Gibbs said by phone last month. “Our first meeting of each day was special teams. I always felt like special teams was the heart of your team because I think all the guys that played just offense or just defense, they had such tremendous respect for the guys that played special teams. There’s guys that appreciate the courage it takes to stand down there and field a punt when you got 11 guys coming down to try and kill you.”


That was Mitchell. He arrived in Washington as a fifth-round pick in 1990. He was a college quarterback at Louisiana, but Gibbs told him the best way to make the team was as a do-whatever-was-asked return man. In a preseason game that August, he received the first kickoff of his life. He returned it 92 yards for a touchdown.

In a 14-year career — 10 in Washington, three in Philadelphia and one with the New York Giants — he gained 19,013 yards on punt and kick returns.

Not only is that the most ever, no one else is within 4,000 yards of him. He returned 13 punts and kicks for touchdowns, behind only Devin Hester.

His style: You’re running at me? I’m going to run at you…….








And it took Jerry Rice 20 years to surpass what Brian Mitchell did in 14 years. Just saying.
 
ULL if you mean Lafayette otherwise It's Louisville.
Wrong board but you started. We have BRANDED our selves the University of Louisiana just as LSUAM@BR (check the diplomas and you will see) has branded themselves LSU. I can’t be bothered by those who support a Top 10 or maybe Top 5 university who find it necessary to do all they can to put down a mid 100s major

Mods this may get ugly so feel free to move
 

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