Cam Jordan: (Ex Saints DL coach) Todd Grantham wasn’t focused on teaching players technique, tweaking form, or development (2 Viewers)

[Filaphill]

Yeah, I kind of knew Grantham wasn't focused on technique by how wide those running lanes were. Zero gap integrity.

 

[Que Que 6]

He was part of Dennis Allen’s good old boy club. These guys are self deceived

And DA will get another NFL HC gig before Antonio Pierce. Fire meets Gasoline. Hello!

 

[No2DC]

And DA will get another NFL HC gig before Antonio Pierce. Fire meets Gasoline. Hello!

Yep, you know how that goes, but hey, I don't want to have that obvious discussion about the characteristics of the "network'. It damn near takes a miracle for some coaches to get a second chance while others get recycled every year.

 

[SoggyBottomBoy]

Could be true. Could also be mixed in w loads of excuses on behalf of the players for lack of execution and commitment

I knew this type of remark was coming, it just came sooner than expected.

 

[schuetter]

And DA will get another NFL HC gig before Antonio Pierce. Fire meets Gasoline. Hello!

I see your point, but DA will never be a head coach in the NFL again. Willing to wager a LOT on that if there are any takers out there...

 

[Saintslfc13]

There were a handful of posters here that had been blasting Grantham for a while. Looks like they were proven right.

Grantham and his scheme haven't been good since he was at UGA under Mark Richt. I honestly just don't think read and react schemes work well in the modern football era. Players are too athletic and offenses are designed with max efficiency in mind, not to mention all the moving parts to confuse the defense both pre-snap and after the play starts. It leads to passive play overall, which is especially hard to cope with on the D-Line.

 

[BarBar]

Man....this team became totally dysfunctional under Dennis Allen and company.

 

[saint_drago]

This is disappointing to hear but it also explains a lot. It has to be frustrating to go from Ryan Nielsen to Todd Grantham. Grantham has bounced all over the place from college to pros. He's just one of those guys than has been around forever and whenever you need a guy, he's there. Like the defensive version of Marty Mornhinweg. I'm sure Todd knows his stuff but at this point in his career it doesn't seem like the passion and attention to detail was there.

I'm hoping the next hire will be a good teacher. I want to see Bryan Bresee reach his full potential. He's one of the few young talents to build around.

 

[Outbackjack]

And DA will get another NFL HC gig before Antonio Pierce. Fire meets Gasoline. Hello!

Don’t know about Pierce….but there is exactly ZERO percent chance DA gets another shot a head coach. Unless Pop Warner is interested.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

This does bring up a fair question though. Given how horrid that Dline was coached, how do we even know what talent we really have? How do we know what Bresee' full potential is? Saunders? Young? Granderson?

For all we know, we have a top 10 Dline with good coaching. For all we know, we could spend a second or first on Kenneth Grant, Landon Jackson, Tom Sawyer etc and it wouldn't be an upgrade, or maybe even be a downgrade.

 

[St. Geezy]

This does bring up a fair question though. Given how horrid that Dline was coached, how do we even know what talent we really have? How do we know what Bresee' full potential is? Saunders? Young? Granderson?

For all we know, we have a top 10 Dline with good coaching. For all we know, we could spend a second or first on Kenneth Grant, Landon Jackson, Tom Sawyer etc and it wouldn't be an upgrade, or maybe even be a downgrade.

Yep. Tough to trust any assessment of this team based on the coaching challenges it has faced.

We literally had a guy deemed as a draft bust here make first team all-pro in year one in another stop. It’s bonkers.

 

[SaintswonSBXLIV]

I can remember when Grantham was mentioned among candidates for the DC job between the Spags and Rob Ryan eras around here. Perhaps Grantham should've stayed in the college ranks.

He's never been successful. Just a terrible hire.

 

[Domeination]

This is disappointing to hear but it also explains a lot. It has to be frustrating to go from Ryan Nielsen to Todd Grantham. Grantham has bounced all over the place from college to pros. He's just one of those guys than has been around forever and whenever you need a guy, he's there. Like the defensive version of Marty Mornhinweg. I'm sure Todd knows his stuff but at this point in his career it doesn't seem like the passion and attention to detail was there.

I'm hoping the next hire will be a good teacher. I want to see Bryan Bresee reach his full potential. He's one of the few young talents to build around.

Most likely Grantham was the best replacement Allen could get b/c any self-respecting position coach wasn't going to attach his star to DA's increasingly wobbly wagon.

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

We had a tackling issue. That's on the player.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

Most likely Grantham was the best replacement Allen could get b/c any self-respecting position coach wasn't going to attach his star to DA's increasingly wobbly wagon.

I agree with this. Anyone who watched him coach the Raiders knew the likely hood of it being bad in New Orleans too. After year 1 the odds increased. After year 2, it was confirmed. No good coach was going to take a lateral in job to be under him. We managed to get Klint Kubiak which was lucky, but it was also a major step up in his career that worked out because it seems he's a bit of a coveted hire as OC for other teams.