Can't judge Rizzi based on program he didn't build (1 Viewer)

[gregh]

rizzi ship has sailed. someone new is coming in

 

[Nolan]

I can understand the point that you're trying to make, but at the same time... There's nothing about Rizzi's body of work, both as an assistant and interim HC, that warrants him building his own program.

 

[SAINTSFAN]

There's quote from Sundays game from players that suggest their biggest opposition to playing well is that they don't practice hard enough. Specifically Mathieu mentions how w/ the Chiefs they would run roughly 500 plays a day (probably an exaggeration) while during his three year tenure here, most of our practices are walkthroughs and maybe 30-40 plays a day. He points out how that half-speed walk through is potentially one of the reasons they are a bad tackling team because angles/speed change during the game vs what they're exposed to in practice. When Rizzi was first hired he was asked about the changes he could make. While he mentioned a few, he said it would be impossible to do a complete overhaul and they'd have to ride w/ a lot of the program that was already in place.

Regardless, whomever is hired they probably need to put an emphasis on practicing at full speed as often as possible to counterbalance the limited access to players that coaches get under the new CBA. The best teams compete at full speed, because half speed sets you up for injuries. Mark Sanchez made a beautiful point about that during the game yesterday.

I recall Brees mentioning during the 09 season that talked about how on Friday's they scrimmaged hard. 1st team O vs 1st team D full speed.... Need to get back to that.

Part of that could be due to the CBA (maybe not all). There is a limit on the amount of full contact drills now that did not exist a few years ago.

 

[HouseCall]

Most of the team quit at half time yesterday...

That is on Rizzi.

I don’t judge Rizzi on the overall results of a program he didn’t build but I do judge him on the Rams game.

Coming out of a bye with lots still to play for, the team was flat and uninspired.

Now all of the stuff coming out about really odd schedules and light, limited practices. Those are all things Rizzi could have changed even as interim.

 

[Rouxble]

Part of that could be due to the CBA (maybe not all). There is a limit on the amount of full contact drills now that did not exist a few years ago.

The limit is 14 padded practices per season, with restrictions on the types of drills that can be run. It is considered a padded practice if the players are required to wear a helmet and shoulder pads. Drills not allowed:

• Bull in the ring and king of the circle drills
• Oklahoma drill
• OL vs DL in-line run blocking and board drills
• half-line, pods, and 3-spot drills

Of the 14 padded practices, 11 have to be run within the first 11 weeks. By the time Rizzi took over, at most he had 5 padded practices remaining to use, assuming that they didn't have more than one padded practice in any of the first nine weeks. He also obviously lost out on all the preseason padded practices.

 

[sfidc3]

Most of the team quit at half time yesterday...

That is on Rizzi.

Yup, I give him huge credit for the wins, and trying to hold together a disastrous situation he inherited.....he may get a shot one day but don't think I want it to be here....

 

[The Unrest Cure]

Rizzi has won 3 games. In one of those the normally very reliable Falcons' K missed THREE field goals in a 3 point game. We beat the Giants by 3 points, and their K missed a FG as well. Part of that is luck rather than scheme. If those kickers made those kicks, there is an excellent chance Rizzi has won only 1 or 2 games. His career track record in college as a head coach is 18-23. While those college years occurred when he was much younger, positionally he has mainly been entrusted with special teams coaching in the NFL. That doesn't necessarily indicate his full field of talents, but generally ST coaches are the guys who convince players to run full speed down the field and to crash into other players running full speed down the field (basically to that effect), not X's and 0's schematic thinkers nor the coaches most responsible for dealing with the precious egos and historys of stars. He can certainly bring a passion and intensity to the job - and perhaps that is a good thing compared to the taciturn Allen - but there is nothing to suggest in his coaching history that he brings anything other than that to the head coaching position.

Or: do you really want the guy who put Jamal Williams back to return kickoffs calling the shots?

 

[DerrickB]

Fair, but he's still not the right guy to be the next head coach.

 

[dvdman]

You sure can, it’s painfully obvious the team is not responding to his coaching style. You just need to look at the last two weeks to make that determination.
Look shame on them for not being professionals and giving their best out there no matter who the HC is but unfortunately that is the world of professional sports these days. The players are making sure there is a change next season.

 

[sportsaint]

The limit is 14 padded practices per season, with restrictions on the types of drills that can be run. It is considered a padded practice if the players are required to wear a helmet and shoulder pads. Drills not allowed:

• Bull in the ring and king of the circle drills
• Oklahoma drill
• OL vs DL in-line run blocking and board drills
• half-line, pods, and 3-spot drills

Of the 14 padded practices, 11 have to be run within the first 11 weeks. By the time Rizzi took over, at most he had 5 padded practices remaining to use, assuming that they didn't have more than one padded practice in any of the first nine weeks. He also obviously lost out on all the preseason padded practices.

This is the same NFL that schedules Thursday night games 4 days after playing their last game. Player safety