Chase Daniel's Analysis on the Saints Offense (2 Viewers)

[Mikezzz]

I did not realize that Chase Daniel had a YouTube channel where he breaks down film. Here is his analysis of the Saints offense against the Jags:

 

[Saintscuffy]

So, wht is it? It seems like them only playing 1 or 2 series in the preseason has a lot to do with the issues. that and the oline issues....

 

[Icon]

Is it just me or are some of the most random people coming out of the woodwork to comment on the Saints offense?

Lance Moore, Scott Shanle, Chase Daniel ......everybody wants a hand in helping to get this thing ironed out.

 

[Infoman]

Good stuff by Chase... Saw a lot of what he saw from my end zone terrace seat... It's not all Car, though he has missed some things... It's not all the WRs/RBs missing assignments or not giving effort, though they have.... It's not all horrid play calls by Pete, though he's had his share... and this week the Line was good enough, though not great.... I still think what I thought before... no accountability by the coaching staff, no consistency by the players, and the play calls in critical situations (RZ and 3rd down) are counter intuitive to what the teams' strengths are. All of which makes for a ~.500 offensive team.

I'd still like to see a different play caller soon... Many of these plays are predictable... I read today that JAX defenders said they were playing a ton of Cover 2 because they knew the Saints would checkdown, checkdown, checkdown in that situation. I want the calls to be centered around the player (matchup) and not the play itself... Simplify - Heavy run - Heavy motion - 3 reads tops with all of them being to matchup our best players with advantages... and much more misdirection to create space.

 

[pierce2poydras]

So, wht is it? It seems like them only playing 1 or 2 series in the preseason has a lot to do with the issues. that and the oline issues....

I agree but then again you'd think they'd be caught up by week 8 though. I don't know what it is. I think it's gotta be a combination of system issues (situational playcalls), players not fit for the system, and I'm starting to think bad attitudes and a lack of buy-in from the players. It shouldn't take this long to get on the same page but I'm still holding out hope that that's the main problem.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

Is it just me or are some of the most random people coming out of the woodwork to comment on the Saints offense?

Lance Moore, Scott Shanle, Chase Daniel ......everybody wants a hand in helping to get this thing ironed out.

Lance Moore and Chase Daniel are local and national network analysts. They’ve remained associated with the team on social media.

J.T. O’Sullivan’s the only random person since we haven’t heard from him since his brief playing stint here in 02-04 as a 6th round backup. His YouTube channel is really good though.

With that said, Daniel and O’Sullivan sounds like they’re more capable OCs than Carmichael. They would make sure Carr gets the ball out and hit the open man a lot better.

 

[Lustmord]

sat next to him on a plane a couple of weeks ago. nice dude

 

[PBsWhodat]

Nick said it yesterday on the show….. not saying it’s route but a lot of our players are not trying because they know when they get to the top of the route Carr is already checking it down. Nobody wants to run full speed all game when they know they aren’t getting the ball. No I’m not saying it’s acceptable but you have to understand the human element there.

 

[Chris]

Is it just me or are some of the most random people coming out of the woodwork to comment on the Saints offense?

Lance Moore, Scott Shanle, Chase Daniel ......everybody wants a hand in helping to get this thing ironed out.

People love a good mystery.

 

[BreesusSaves]

The Saints offense is so bad that anyone blindly throwing a dart is going to land on a glaring issue 95% of the time.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

Nick said it yesterday on the show….. not saying it’s route but a lot of our players are not trying because they know when they get to the top of the route Carr is already checking it down. Nobody wants to run full speed all game when they know they aren’t getting the ball. No I’m not saying it’s acceptable but you have to understand the human element there.

That sounds like that can be an issue with the time of the route design too. By time receivers get to the top of the route, zone coverage shuts down their window for the ball because of how long the route develops.

Sometimes Carr hits those tight spaces. Then other times he’s not comfortable and avoiding a turnover. Our offensive coordinator should be helping out the QB more with quicker routes. The OC is calling those same routes that Carr’s uncomfortable with over and over but can’t see it’s a problem.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

Good stuff by Chase... Saw a lot of what he saw from my end zone terrace seat... It's not all Car, though he has missed some things... It's not all the WRs/RBs missing assignments or not giving effort, though they have.... It's not all horrid play calls by Pete, though he's had his share... and this week the Line was good enough, though not great.... I still think what I thought before... no accountability by the coaching staff, no consistency by the players, and the play calls in critical situations (RZ and 3rd down) are counter intuitive to what the teams' strengths are. All of which makes for a ~.500 offensive team.

I'd still like to see a different play caller soon... Many of these plays are predictable... I read today that JAX defenders said they were playing a ton of Cover 2 because they knew the Saints would checkdown, checkdown, checkdown in that situation. I want the calls to be centered around the player (matchup) and not the play itself... Simplify - Heavy run - Heavy motion - 3 reads tops with all of them being to matchup our best players with advantages... and much more misdirection to create space.

The cover 2 thing is concerning because we have multiple guys who can threaten the seams. So it's concerning to not see that adjustment.

I think it's a mixture of everyone, but most of the blame still goes to the coaches IMHO. The way this entire team is falling a part is something to behold. It's the offensive coaches job to put the guys in position where they do what they are good at, and stay away from what they don't perform well.

If Carr doesn't trust the plays and is doing his own thing, WHY are we calling those plays and implementing them into the gameplan?

 

[RJS]

So, wht is it? It seems like them only playing 1 or 2 series in the preseason has a lot to do with the issues. that and the oline issues....

I think there might be a little too much freelancing at the line of scrimmage from Carr. Sometimes he seems obsessed with getting into an "alert" throw based on what he thinks is going to happen. He's pressing.

I think going forward he may be asked to just execute the play and progressions as called. Trust the people around you (coaches and players) to do their jobs. There is still reason for some optimism with the offense.

 

[Saintscuffy]

The cover 2 thing is concerning because we have multiple guys who can threaten the seams. So it's concerning to not see that adjustment.

I think it's a mixture of everyone, but most of the blame still goes to the coaches IMHO. The way this entire team is falling a part is something to behold

Daniels showed several ways that yhe play could hv ben desgned better to help Carr, and the line.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

Random thought, and this could be accurate.


Carmichael was always the passing game coordinator under Payton...we also didn't have these issues. The guy we'd like to call the plays is now the passing game coordinator.......could he be behind the horrid play designs?