COVID-19 Outbreak Information Updates (Reboot) [over 150.000,000 US cases (est.), 6,422,520 US hospitilizations, 1,148,691 US deaths.] (3 Viewers)

[SWJJ]

I pointed out several pages back Ms. is a great example to look at. I was met by a few posts saying there are too many
variables. Granted poor lifestyle choices such as obesity are a factor. The fact still remains a vaccinated obese person
stands a far greater chance of survival than an obese person who isn't. That fact can't be denied or debated.

yup, it's like they want SO BAD for there not to be evidence that vaccines work they dismiss every bit of evidence they come across.

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

So, apparently Dr. Avegno dropped out of KDV because she was concerned for her safety and safety of krewe members. Sounds like she was concerned about comments made about her in social media, not the dangers of COVID. Reading between the lines, I would guess there have been threats against her for her role in the COVID restrictions:

It wasn't me!

Sounds like she made the mistake of reading the comments. Never read the comments.

 

[hockey2112]

It's odd that they chose to lump together "Not Vaccinated or Partially Vaccinated" for the first column. Why not separate those two numbers? Makes me think that partially vaccinated individuals made up a substantial portion of that column, which seems like it would be newsworthy and therefore worth its own column.

 

[superchuck500]

It's odd that they chose to lump together "Not Vaccinated or Partially Vaccinated" for the first column. Why not separate those two numbers? Makes me think that partially vaccinated individuals made up a substantial portion of that column, which seems like it would be newsworthy and therefore worth its own column.

Could also be that the data set didn’t distinguish between unvaccinated and those who got one shot but didn’t compete the process. If it’s a two-dose vaccine regimen and you don’t the second, you’re effectively unvaccinated, right?

 

[livefromDC]

It's odd that they chose to lump together "Not Vaccinated or Partially Vaccinated" for the first column. Why not separate those two numbers? Makes me think that partially vaccinated individuals made up a substantial portion of that column, which seems like it would be newsworthy and therefore worth its own column.

Partially vaccinated is really the same as not vaccinated.

 

[hockey2112]

Partially vaccinated is really the same as not vaccinated.

Could also be that the data set didn’t distinguish between unvaccinated and those who got one shot but didn’t compete the process. If it’s a two-dose vaccine regimen and you don’t the second, you’re effectively unvaccinated, right?

Then why state a distinction in the title of that column, if unvax and partial vax are essentially the same? If the data set didn't distinguish, then that seems to be a fault with the data collection. Again, I just find it odd. Shouldn't one dose be better than no dose? This graph could be a good opportunity to showcase why someone should at least get their first dose (unless the data and resulting additional column wouldn't support that notion).

 

[SaintInBucLand]

Then why state a distinction in the title of that column, if unvax and partial vax are essentially the same? If the data set didn't distinguish, then that seems to be a fault with the data collection. Again, I just find it odd. Shouldn't one dose be better than no dose? This graph could be a good opportunity to showcase why someone should at least get their first dose (unless the data and resulting additional column wouldn't support that notion).

Here is one that shows distinction between 1 and 2 doses as well as boosted. But this is for symptomatic disease, not death. Pretty clear distinction between no vaccine and at least 1 shot.

 

[livefromDC]

Then why state a distinction in the title of that column, if unvax and partial vax are essentially the same? If the data set didn't distinguish, then that seems to be a fault with the data collection. Again, I just find it odd. Shouldn't one dose be better than no dose? This graph could be a good opportunity to showcase why someone should at least get their first dose (unless the data and resulting additional column wouldn't support that notion).

If you just say unvaxxed, then people will ask about "partially vaxxed". If you put "partially vaxxed" in a column of its own and it shows even the slightest protection, you get people thinking that they can just get the first dose. If you put "partially vaxxed" in a column of its own and its show no protection similar to being unvaxxed, you get people saying, "see, the vaccine doesn't work".

No vaccination and "partially vaccinated" are really the same, because immunity isn't achieved with only the first dose. Therefore, they should be together.

 

[hockey2112]

If you just say unvaxxed, then people will ask about "partially vaxxed". If you put "partially vaxxed" in a column of its own and it shows even the slightest protection, you get people thinking that they can just get the first dose. If you put "partially vaxxed" in a column of its own and its show no protection similar to being unvaxxed, you get people saying, "see, the vaccine doesn't work".

No vaccination and "partially vaccinated" are really the same, because immunity isn't achieved with only the first dose. Therefore, they should be together.

Disclaimer: I agree with getting the second dose. I am also boosted.

I understand what you are saying about not achieving immunity from one dose, but doesn't one dose give you partial immunity? Or at least far more immunity than no shot?

Your first paragraph above illustrates my point... it seems sketchy to combine them, like they are trying to hide one of the things that you are saying could be shown by using separate columns.

 

[bclemms]

If you just say unvaxxed, then people will ask about "partially vaxxed". If you put "partially vaxxed" in a column of its own and it shows even the slightest protection, you get people thinking that they can just get the first dose. If you put "partially vaxxed" in a column of its own and its show no protection similar to being unvaxxed, you get people saying, "see, the vaccine doesn't work".

No vaccination and "partially vaccinated" are really the same, because immunity isn't achieved with only the first dose. Therefore, they should be together.

This doesn't work for me if I'm trying to split hairs though.

 

[bclemms]

Disclaimer: I agree with getting the second dose. I am also boosted.

I understand what you are saying about not achieving immunity from one dose, but doesn't one dose give you partial immunity? Or at least far more immunity than no shot?

Your first paragraph above illustrates my point... it seems sketchy to combine them, like they are trying to hide one of the things that you are saying could be shown by using separate columns.

It's been fairly routine in data since boosters have come available. 1 shot gives some very short lived amount of immunity against all variants from the little research I've seen but it's main purpose is the primer for the second shot which gives a much more robust and sustained response since the immune system has been "trained". It's why the vaccine was created for two doses to begin with. Either people have taken the vaccine as it was designed or they have not.

 

[where yat brah]

My booster didn't come until 11 months after my 2nd shot. A year after my 1st shot. I had no effects from the booster other than some lethargy the follow day. I feel that I prolly should have been given a 3/4 dose instead of a 1/2 dose. Maybe there should have been some thought in varying the booster dose based on length following the 2nd shot. just my opinion.

 

[gboudx]

So, apparently Dr. Avegno dropped out of KDV because she was concerned for her safety and safety of krewe members. Sounds like she was concerned about comments made about her in social media, not the dangers of COVID. Reading between the lines, I would guess there have been threats against her for her role in the COVID restrictions:

Is she also the mayor? Mr Sparkle referred to “mayor Avegno”. I thought Cantrell was the mayor?

 

[livefromDC]

Disclaimer: I agree with getting the second dose. I am also boosted.

I understand what you are saying about not achieving immunity from one dose, but doesn't one dose give you partial immunity? Or at least far more immunity than no shot?

Your first paragraph above illustrates my point... it seems sketchy to combine them, like they are trying to hide one of the things that you are saying could be shown by using separate columns.

Partial immunity is like your girlfriend using partial birth control pills.

 

[nolaspe]

Not sure if this has been posted, but mast cell activation may have a huge component in causing long haul covid, the article is from Nov. 2021...

Mast cell activation symptoms are prevalent in Long-COVID

Hyper-inflammation caused by COVID-19 may be mediated by mast cell activation (MCA) which has also been hypothesized to cause Long-COVID (LC) symptoms…

www.sciencedirect.com

Conclusions​

MCA symptoms were increased in LC and mimicked the symptoms and severity reported by patients who have MCAS. Increased activation of aberrant mast cells induced by SARS-CoV-2 infection by various mechanisms may underlie part of the pathophysiology of LC, possibly suggesting routes to effective therapy.