The answer will be revealed if the Saints make a deep playoff run this year.Would we have signed these players if he was still the coach? Im seeing a lot of people on twitter sayin, he made have been holding us back.
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The answer will be revealed if the Saints make a deep playoff run this year.Would we have signed these players if he was still the coach? Im seeing a lot of people on twitter sayin, he made have been holding us back.
It went south before that...I don't think he ever fully recovered from his 2016(?) shoulder injuryDrew's arm started going south after having the thumb nearly torn off his hand and 11 broken ribs. There was exactly one draft afterwards during Drew's time with the Saints.
PFF seemed to think otherwise in both 2017 and 2018.It went south before that...I don't think he ever fully recovered from his 2016(?) shoulder injury
The whole idea of the thread is a nonsense.I think we'll know the answer to this question if the Saints win the Super Bowl this year. But even if they do win, maybe they would have won by a lot more if Payton was the coach. I mean nobody knows, and all of lifes decision can go either way.
Brees looked mostly like his old self (respective to arm strength) until the last couple of months of the 2018 season. He was limited (arm strength) in the playoffs and for all of 2019. In 2020 he was even more limited. The broken ribs just made it all even worse.PFF seemed to think otherwise in both 2017 and 2018.Most accurate deep ball passers in 2017 | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF
Using PFF's adjusted completion percentage on deep passes, Steve Palazzolo examines the top 10 QBs in terms of most accurate on throws targeted at least 20 yards downfield.www.pff.com(deep passes bottom of the article)Most accurate NFL quarterbacks by pass depth in 2018 | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF
NFL Editor Mark Chichester uses PFF's advanced quarterback charting to highlight the most accurate quarterbacks at each pass depth from 2018.www.pff.com
I'm not a slave to PFF rankings, by any means, but these studies seem reasonably objective and Brees is 2nd and 6th respectively.
The answer will be revealed if the Saints make a deep playoff run this year.
It went south before that...I don't think he ever fully recovered from his 2016(?) shoulder injury
Yea, that's about right. I think along with building a great 1.) defense, 2.) drafting CG, Kamara, and 3.) taking O linemen in the first rd. Tells the story on Bres's arm, at least in Sean's mind.Brees looked mostly like his old self (respective to arm strength) until the last couple of months of the 2018 season. He was limited (arm strength) in the playoffs and for all of 2019. In 2020 he was even more limited. The broken ribs just made it all even worse.
It’s no disrespect to Brees to say this. He got a lot of miles out of his reconstructed shoulder, but the last couple of years his arm strength was very limited. It impacted the way Payton constructed the offense and chose offensive personnel.
The big positive is it finally led to the Saints building an elite defense.
Yea, that's about right. I think along with building a great 1.) defense, 2.) drafting CG, Kamara, and 3.) taking O linemen in the first rd. Tells the story on Bres's arm, at least in Sean's mind.Once An Accident, Twice A Coincidence, Three Times A Pattern
This team has been built to win with Drew's declining arm strength for awhile now..........where have you been?You think Brees's declining arm stregth explains why CSP would have drafted the best players he could get and maybe if Brees was throwing like Winston he would have drafted scrubs?
He always takes Olinemen, RBs and the best players he can get it's just that they don't always work out.
It wouldn't have taken much to have improved on the 2005 team. TBHDisagree, most of the players are CSP’s…..
I repeat what this take misses, totally whiffs on, in context….he left the Saints in much, much better shape than he found them….as opposed to Mora, Haslett, and that idiot Ditka…..
My beef was, even in the offensive salad days, the defense and the running game should have had the same priority. Maybe he just finally got lucky with coaching and drafting and signings. But the way the team was built around Brees and pass first was never going to win it all. It's not an every game philosophy for success. You need to be able to run the ball and play defense late in the year and against the best teams.This team has been built to win with Drew's declining arm strength for awhile now..........where have you been?