Do you have ambition to live or retire abroad? (22 Viewers)

[CapitalCitySaint]

I'm hoping everyone says yes. The fewer people here means it's better for me. I've been out of the country twice and hated it. I'm never leaving again but it wouldn't bother me if everyone else did.

Where did you go that you hated??

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

do international waters count?

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Where did you go that you hated??

i've toured 18 countries and visited another 2-3, can't think of any that I even disliked (didn't lovelove Poland but wasn't there that long)

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

to Ascona, (where our Grandmother was from )

ha! cool - that was the first italian town I toured
we performed in the piazza on a festival stage - 2500 Italians and summer tourists jammed in there hootin it up
that spolied me for all subsequent stops

 

[Krodwhodat]

I love this country. It’s given me everything I have. I’ve traveled and never really felt at home anywhere else. Funny how people are risking their lives to get here and people here believe it’s not a country worth living in. It’s the greatest country in the world in my opinion…..

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Funny how people are risking their lives to get here and people here believe it’s not a country worth living in.

You’re wrong, it isnt funny at all- it’s tragic…. I dont even recognize the USA i grew up in.. Unfortunately i cant get into many of the reasons for this as EVERYTHING nowadays is considered ‘poltical’…. Suffice to say, we will have to strenuously disagree on what constitutes ‘the greatest country in the world’ vs what i think America has become in 2025, and the reasons for those changes .. and why many people would prefer to live elsewhere .

 

[saintmdterps]

I’d be long gone were it not for my kids. Portugsl in Europe. Colombia, Peru, Uruguay in South America. Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand in Asia. Dark horse might be the Gilberts, Solomons, or the Marshalls in the South Pacific.

We’ll see. I’d love to plan a tour of all these locations

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

I also want to add to my above post that i think it is as important, if moving abroad, to have something that you are ‘going towards’ as opposed to just soemthing you are ‘trying to get away from’…. I first visited Asia last year and quickly fell in live with the buddhist, peace-loving nature of most countries here, as well as the low cost of living and lack of any discernible crime … Krod i dont have to tell you, you should know better than anyone after the events of this past week- that America has a serious problem, which imo starts with the fact that we have more guns than people- 400 million guns vs like 360 million people .. again, i cant veer too far into that b/c of what discourse in this country has become- which imo is yet another problem with America .

 

[saintmdterps]

I love this country. It’s given me everything I have. I’ve traveled and never really felt at home anywhere else. Funny how people are risking their lives to get here and people here believe it’s not a country worth living in. It’s the greatest country in the world in my opinion…..

I cannot support a country with a healthcare system that has as its goal the extraction of as much profit as possible from its users as the greatest country in the world.

Then there are the oligarchs in charge here. Many folks seem to be ok with the pathology of wealth addiction.

Whatever claim the USA once may have had it wasted in it’s unstoppable greed. Then quite literally “white” washed its history.

 

[Clarkey]

Whoops, i just contributed another living abroad post to the other thread before i saw this one .


As many of yall know, i escaped what i consider the USA s***hole last summer and im now a resident of Asia…. This could change depending on work stuff, since i am not yet able to retire financially , even in a cheap part of the world like this.. so i may have to return to America (which i consider a 3rd world country at this point) in order to work and to make a living, since that is where i was born and the country im a citizen of.. but that remains to be seen…. No one has asked for my advice, but in the spirit of this thread, i will give it: My advice to anyone reading this is- If you have options (and not everyone does)- but IF you have options and IF you are able to- then by all means you should do everything in ur power to beat the mass exodus out of America and leave as soon as you possibly can…………. I am not going to get this thread moved or deleted due to politics, so the only thing i will say on the matter is that if you believe ANY politician is going to be your savior or help you or save you or change the way things are heading- then you are DELUSIONAL…….. i hate to be so ‘doom and gloom’, after all as my handle here reflects, im usually a sunny, optimistic upbeat person.. and i am not always ahead of the curve- but in this case, i believe that i am .

Do keyboards in Asia not have a "Return" key?

LOL! Just messing with 'ya.

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Do keyboards in Asia not have a "Return" key?

LOL! Just messing with 'ya.

No problem , i dont mind joshing.. but i dont get it .. Like, i should have more paragraphs or somehting ?

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

It’s the greatest country in the world in my opinion…..

honest question, but based on what?
there's no metric I know of that agrees with this
and tbc i'm not trying to bash - one of the things that was painfully obvious to me was that as cosmopolitan I thought myself to be, one of the things travelling/touring taught me was how American I was

but we are not the healthiest, not the most cultured (by a long shot), not the most/best educated, we have very bad infrastructure, and no longer the path to improvement we once had

I think if you look, it's not the 20 countries ranked higher than us dying to get here; it's the countries 20 slots below us - and are they trying to get here for 'shining light on the hill' reasons or bc businesses, while not paying a living wage, at least offers more than a country ranked 75th?

 

[Clarkey]

No problem , i dont mind joshing.. but i dont get it .. Like, i should have more paragraphs or somehting ?

You could argue that 3-4 paragraphs would be easier to read/process than one large one, no? I'd want you - and everyone else here - to have their opinions and thoughts heard.

Given technology and people's patience in general, someone might see a huge block of text, think "T L D R" and skip past what you might have to offer. Their loss. ; )

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

No problem , i dont mind joshing.. but i dont get it .. Like, i should have more paragraphs or somehting ?

ok boomer
the youngs invented something called bullet points
you might give it a whirl

 

[Clarkey]

honest question, but based on what?
there's no metric I know of that agrees with this
and tbc i'm not trying to bash - one of the things that was painfully obvious to me was that as cosmopolitan I thought myself to be, one of the things travelling/touring taught me was how American I was

but we are not the healthiest, not the most cultured (by a long shot), not the most/best educated, we have very bad infrastructure, and no longer the path to improvement we once had

I think if you look, it's not the 20 countries ranked higher than us dying to get here; it's the countries 20 slots below us - and are they trying to get here for 'shining light on the hill' reasons or bc businesses, while not paying a living wage, at least offers more than a country ranked 75th?

It's based on something you've been told by one another for several decades now. Anyone who has the desire or ability to travel elsewhere - or reads data on happiness or related metrics - would argue the USA isn't even close to the podium.