Do you like Shakespeare? (1 Viewer)

[St. Widge]

Good call. I forgot all about that one.
Kurosawa films are incredible. Anyone who hasn’t enjoyed the drama of such classics as Seven Samurai, Rashomon, Ikiru, Ran, is missing out.

Dreams, which I think was his last movie, is also great. Just stunning visuals.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Dreams, which I think was his last movie, is also great. Just stunning visuals.

I love Dreams
fox wedding, the blizzard one, and the old man by the stream are some of my all time favorite shorts

 

[DCSaints_Fan]

I find it really hard to read anything written before about 1900.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I find it really hard to read anything written before about 1900.

7 pm?

 

[Optimus Prime]

I find it really hard to read anything written before about 1900.

Reading Canterbury Tales was torture

I liked Gulliver’s Travels though

 

[kizzy821]

On average, I log onto this board at least once per day and it amazes me when I notice all the bumped threads I never saw the first time around.

As stated in the OP, I can't get past all the thous and thees and thys. The closest I've come to appreciating Shakespeare (or any poet) was Baz Lurhmann's Romeo & Juliet.

I don't really know why that is. I've spent an innumerable amount of hours daydreaming (not so much anymore). I think in analogies and I have a habit of using far too many words to describe feelings and events.

Seems like a person of that nature would adore Shakespeare.

But for some reason, (I guess?) I prefer storytelling to be as direct as possible. I don't think I'm a fan of things that are open to interpretation.

Like... say exactly what you mean in the clearest and most direct way possible.

Sometimes I wish I could appreciate the ambiguity in works like poetry.

 

[Grumpy Old Manatee]

Decent reels, but I prefer Penn.

 

[Zack Lee]

The closest I've come to appreciating Shakespeare (or any poet) was Baz Lurhmann's Romeo & Juliet.

I was today years old when I learned that the director of that is the Sunscreen song guy. For whatever reason his name stuck in my head from when he made that song so I recognized it in your post.

 

[kizzy821]

I was today years old when I learned that the director of that is the Sunscreen song guy. For whatever reason his name stuck in my head from when he made that song so I recognized it in your post.

I love that song. Really.

That song and Brandon Lee's final interview for The Crow, are what started my obsession with 'last times' (it's crazy how they're both referenced here in a matter of days).

In Brandon's interview he spoke about watching a sunset and not knowing it's the last time you'll see one. And The Sunscreen Song has this verse saying worrying is useless because your real worries are likely to blindside you on some idle Tuesday afternoon.

It's been over 20 years since I first heard either of them, but it's bonkers how I use those two sayings to try and appreciate random things (like having limbs) lest they be taken away when you least expect it.

The Sunscreen Song is why I run through my house doing impromptu jigs and boogies on the regular. It has this verse that simply says, "Dance."

Up until about a week ago, I hadn't thought specifically about the song in a couple of years, but I do something subconsciously inspired by its verses almost every single day.

 

[Zack Lee]

In Brandon's interview he spoke about watching a sunset and not knowing it's the last time you'll see one. And The Sunscreen Song has this verse saying worrying is useless because your real worries are likely to blindside you on some idle Tuesday afternoon.

A couple of Mark Twain quotes I love

“Worrying is like paying a debt you don’t owe”

And “I’ve had many troubles in my life, most of which never happened”

But also that thought is the cornerstone of both Buddhism and stoicism, which I believe are the only real philosophy or psychology 95% of us actually need.

Well that and the fact that it can’t rain all the time, just to circle around and not completely derail.

 

[kizzy821]

A couple of Mark Twain quotes I love

“Worrying is like paying a debt you don’t owe”

And “I’ve had many troubles in my life, most of which never happened”

But also that thought is the cornerstone of both Buddhism and stoicism, which I believe are the only real philosophy or psychology 95% of us actually need.

Well that and the fact that it can’t rain all the time, just to circle around and not completely derail.

*virtual kiss*

 

[Optimus Prime]

…..Some writers invent words in the same way Thomas Edison invented light bulbs: they cobble together bits of sound and create entirely new words without any meaning or relation to existing words. Lewis Carroll does in the first stanza of his “Jabberwocky” poem:

`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

Carroll totally made up words like “brillig,” “slithy,” “toves,” and “mimsy”; the first stanza alone contains 11 of these made-up words, which are known as nonce words. Words like these aren’t just meaningless, they’re also disposable, intended to be used just once.

Shakespeare did not create nonce words. He took an entirely different approach. When he invented words, he did it by working with existing words and altering them in new ways. More specifically, he would create new words by:

• Conjoining two words
• Changing verbs into adjectives
• Changing nouns into verbs
• Adding prefixes to words
• Adding suffixes to words……

Though today readers often need the help of modern English translations to fully grasp the nuance and meaning of Shakespeare’s language, Shakespeare’s contemporary audience would have had a much easier go of it. Why? Two main reasons.

First, Shakespeare was part of a movement in English literature that introduced more prose into plays. (Earlier plays were written primarily in rhyming verse.) Shakespeare’s prose was similar to the style and cadence of everyday conversation in Elizabethan England, making it natural for members of his audience to understand.

In addition, the words he created were comprehensible intuitively because, once again, they were often built on the foundations of already existing words, and were not just unintelligible combinations of sound. Take “congreeted” for example. The prefix “con” means with, and “greet” means to receive or acknowledge someone.

It therefore wasn’t a huge stretch for people to understand this line:

That, face to face and royal eye to eye.
You have congreeted.
(Henry V, Act 5, Scene 2)

Shakespeare also made nouns into verbs. He was the first person to use friend as a verb, predating Mark Zuckerberg by about 395 years.

And what so poor a man as Hamlet is
May do, to express his love and friending to you
(Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 5)

Other times, despite his proclivity for making compound words, Shakespeare reached into his vast Latin vocabulary for loanwords.

His heart fracted and corroborate.
(Henry V, Act 2, Scene 1)

Here the Latin word fractus means “broken.” Take away the –us and add in the English suffix –ed, and a new English word is born….

Compiling a definitive list of every word that Shakespeare ever invented is impossible. But creating a list of the words that Shakespeare almostcertainly invented can be done. We generated list of words below by starting with the words that Shakespeare was the first to use in written language, and then applying research that has identified which words were probably in everyday use during Shakespeare’s time. The result are 420 bona fide words minted, coined, and invented by Shakespeare, from “academe” to “zany”:

1. academe
2. accessible
3. accommodation
4. addiction
5. admirable
6. aerial
7. airless
8. amazement
9. anchovy
10. arch-villain
11. auspicious
12. bacheolorship
13. barefaced
14. baseless
15. batty
16. beachy
17. bedroom
18. belongings
19. birthplace
20. black-faced
21. bloodstained
22. bloodsucking
23. blusterer
24. bodikins
25. braggartism
26. brisky
27. broomstaff
28. budger
29. bump
30. buzzer
31. candle holder
32. catlike
33. characterless
34. cheap
35. chimney-top……

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[Madmarsha]

I love that song. Really.

That song and Brandon Lee's final interview for The Crow, are what started my obsession with 'last times' (it's crazy how they're both referenced here in a matter of days).

In Brandon's interview he spoke about watching a sunset and not knowing it's the last time you'll see one. And The Sunscreen Song has this verse saying worrying is useless because your real worries are likely to blindside you on some idle Tuesday afternoon.

It's been over 20 years since I first heard either of them, but it's bonkers how I use those two sayings to try and appreciate random things (like having limbs) lest they be taken away when you least expect it.

The Sunscreen Song is why I run through my house doing impromptu jigs and boogies on the regular. It has this verse that simply says, "Dance."

Up until about a week ago, I hadn't thought specifically about the song in a couple of years, but I do something subconsciously inspired by its verses almost every single day.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Shakespeare's language is widely considered to represent the pinnacle of English. But that status is underpinned by multiple myths — ideas about language that have departed from reality (or what is even plausible). Those myths send us down rabbit holes and make us lose sight of what is truly impressive about Shakespeare — what he did with his words.

The Encyclopedia of Shakespeare's Language project at Lancaster University, deploying large-scale computer analyses, has been transforming what we know about Shakespeare's language. Here, incorporating some of its findings, we revisit five things that you probably thought you knew about Shakespeare but are actually untrue.

1. Shakespeare coined a vast number of words

Well, he did, but not as many as people think — even reputable sources assume more than 1,000. The Shakespeare Birthplace Trust puts it at 1,700, but carefully add that this number concerns words whose earliest appearance is in Shakespeare's works.

The word "hobnail" first appears in a text attributed to Shakespeare, but it's difficult to imagine it arose from a creative poetic act. More likely, it was around in the spoken language of the time and Shakespeare's use is the earliest recording of it. Estimates of just how many words Shakespeare supposedly coined do not usually distinguish between what was creatively coined by him and what was first recorded in a written document attributed to him.

Even if you don't make that distinction and include all words that appear first in a work attributed to Shakespeare, whether coined or recorded, numbers are grossly inflated. Working with the literature and linguistics academics Jonathan Hope and Sam Hollands, we've been using computers to search millions of words in texts pre-dating Shakespeare. With this method, we have found that only around 500 words do seem to first appear in Shakespeare........

MSN

 

[Geldo]

Shakespeare's language is widely considered to represent the pinnacle of English. But that status is underpinned by multiple myths — ideas about language that have departed from reality (or what is even plausible). Those myths send us down rabbit holes and make us lose sight of what is truly impressive about Shakespeare — what he did with his words.

The Encyclopedia of Shakespeare's Language project at Lancaster University, deploying large-scale computer analyses, has been transforming what we know about Shakespeare's language. Here, incorporating some of its findings, we revisit five things that you probably thought you knew about Shakespeare but are actually untrue.

1. Shakespeare coined a vast number of words

Well, he did, but not as many as people think — even reputable sources assume more than 1,000. The Shakespeare Birthplace Trust puts it at 1,700, but carefully add that this number concerns words whose earliest appearance is in Shakespeare's works.

The word "hobnail" first appears in a text attributed to Shakespeare, but it's difficult to imagine it arose from a creative poetic act. More likely, it was around in the spoken language of the time and Shakespeare's use is the earliest recording of it. Estimates of just how many words Shakespeare supposedly coined do not usually distinguish between what was creatively coined by him and what was first recorded in a written document attributed to him.

Even if you don't make that distinction and include all words that appear first in a work attributed to Shakespeare, whether coined or recorded, numbers are grossly inflated. Working with the literature and linguistics academics Jonathan Hope and Sam Hollands, we've been using computers to search millions of words in texts pre-dating Shakespeare. With this method, we have found that only around 500 words do seem to first appear in Shakespeare........

MSN

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I've learned more from this thread than 4 years talking to my colleagues....!