Early take on how we match up next week vs. Dallas?

[Rexman100]

I believe that it is closer to the Russ effect. They were in offenses that they were successful in and now they are in a new offensive scheme and everything about their play is just horrible. It's the "does success equal skill" question.

I agree 100%. Add to it the defensive minded, and long losing culture, (probably quickly over negative ) and the field itself, doesn’t fit Watson.

 

[jahsoul357]

I agree 100%. Add to it the defensive minded, and long losing culture, (probably quickly over negative ) and the field itself, doesn’t fit Watson.

While the Browns supposedly have a top-10 offense, they have an offensive coach from the Kubiak tree. Every QB who has played in that offense had some level of success except Watson. He would do better in one of those college style offenses giving up 3 1 round picks AND that contract for that marginal pay will probably go down as one of the worst in NFL history. At least them and not us...lol

On another note, I'm so glad that we don't have this problem this season so far (LOL), but QB play is SO BAD across the league. I know QB play has sucked in college for a long time but dang...lol

 

[Rexman100]

While the Browns supposedly have a top-10 offense, they have an offensive coach from the Kubiak tree. Every QB who has played in that offense had some level of success except Watson. He would do better in one of those college style offenses giving up 3 1 round picks AND that contract for that marginal pay will probably go down as one of the worst in NFL history. At least them and not us...lol

On another note, I'm so glad that we don't have this problem this season so far (LOL), but QB play is SO BAD across the league. I know QB play has sucked in college for a long time but dang...lol

You know me I’ve always been a believer in Carr. But I’ll be fair, and won’t say I told anybody so, but what im seeing in this new system, is limiting Carrs reps is the key to unlocking him. He only attempted 17 passes. (12/17 for 250). You saw late in the game he kinda got bored and threw a pick. But overall he’s good in this system. Apparently some QBs are better than others in this system. Watson likes to improvise using his quickness in the pocket. But you aren’t being quick in this grassy sand.

Clev field: Kentucky Bluegrass irrigated field, with a sand-soil root zone and an underground heating system that involves nine boilers and 40 miles (64 km) of underground piping. The heating system prevents the field from freezing and extends the growing season of the turf.

 

[BoNcHiE]

The biggest thing you should take from the upcoming matchup with the Cowboys is that the NFL is hard to figure out and even harder to figure out in weeks 1-3. What you think is going to happen probably won't happen.

There are going to be a lot of teams that should win on Sunday that lose because week 2 is always wild like that (if you bet, you know about week 2). The Cowboys have as good a chance to be one of them as any other team.

This is why I don’t play the stats-gazing/matchup game when sports betting.

The NFL just doesn’t work that way. How many times have we heard “team x’s OL is weak so team y will win” and then the opposite happens? Or that a game will be low scoring and then one team hangs 30+? Or that a secondary is elite and then they get toasted?

Everything is about scheme these days. It’s not “muh big man line up across from your big man, bigger man win.” Games aren’t won on paper.

We took Parsons out of the game with scheme, not overwhelming physical play. Something to think about the next time these discussions come up.

And for the same reason, you can’t just assume we’ll beat the Eagles at home.

 

[jahsoul357]

You know me I’ve always been a believer in Carr. But I’ll be fair, and won’t say I told anybody so, but what im seeing in this new system, is limiting Carrs reps is the key to unlocking him. He only attempted 17 passes. (12/17 for 250). You saw late in the game he kinda got bored and threw a pick. But overall he’s good in this system. Apparently some QBs are better than others in this system. Watson likes to improvise using his quickness in the pocket. But you aren’t being quick in this grassy sand.

Clev field: Kentucky Bluegrass irrigated field, with a sand-soil root zone and an underground heating system that involves nine boilers and 40 miles (64 km) of underground piping. The heating system prevents the field from freezing and extends the growing season of the turf.

I've always believed that Carr can be good in a system that simplifies reads and scheme people open instead of having him throw people open with anticipation (throwing to spots). I said that Josh McDaniels caught a lot of flack for his play calling but when you understand the "complexity" of that offense, it makes sense why Carr struggled.



Every receiver on these routes is considered "live" and it is up to the QB to determine where he is going with the ball by reading the defense pre-snap and then throwing to the open receiver. If I'm not mistaken, I don't think this offense has your standard "progression" and more see and react. I'm not going to say that a QB can't still run this type of offense at it's core but with the lack of actual development, you won't see too many running this style offense correctly.

I think Carr does better when things are simplified and "structured" and it looks like what Kubiak put together is PERFECT and I'm loving what we are doing. Plus, the return of Kamara.....

 

[Pas Bon]

I think we match up very well....much better than most think.
I'm going to go out on a limb here, but I predict the Saints will win BIG in Dallas and beat the Cowboys 44-19

 

[Rexman100]

I've always believed that Carr can be good in a system that simplifies reads and scheme people open instead of having him throw people open with anticipation (throwing to spots). I said that Josh McDaniels caught a lot of flack for his play calling but when you understand the "complexity" of that offense, it makes sense why Carr struggled.



Every receiver on these routes is considered "live" and it is up to the QB to determine where he is going with the ball by reading the defense pre-snap and then throwing to the open receiver. If I'm not mistaken, I don't think this offense has your standard "progression" and more see and react. I'm not going to say that a QB can't still run this type of offense at it's core but with the lack of actual development, you won't see too many running this style offense correctly.

I think Carr does better when things are simplified and "structured" and it looks like what Kubiak put together is PERFECT and I'm loving what we are doing. Plus, the return of Kamara.....

yes exactly read and react. But not a complicated read, more like read at the LOS pre-snap (after the D reacts to motion) It'll go like this: DC reads, then snaps, goes thru 2 or three progressions. (max) But this is probably an example of third and long. The heart of this scheme is wide zone run plays without any pre-snap reads, just run the play that's called regardless of what the defense does presnap. (we have like 30% call of this nature in the plan) Sounds crazy simple right. Thats why Klint Kubiaks first words out of his mouth with a Saints hat on, was "We're going to run against 8 men at the LOS"