Education / Teaching thread (4 Viewers)

[Get in the Carr]

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Wouldn’t practicing the same stuff yield the same results?
Also how do we know Mississippi removing a week is a step forward unless we see results showing that?

We don’t but being one of the worst educated states is still at least trying something different. Reminds me of DA and keep doing what you’re doing.

 

[bonnjer]

Finally a bit of good news.

Louisiana legislators are in agreement to give teachers $2,000 raise - Louisiana Illuminator

Louisiana lawmakers have reached a tentative agreement to give public school teachers and other school staff a $2,000 and $1,000 annual raise respectively, legislators across the political spectrum confirmed this week.

lailluminator.com

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

We don’t but being one of the worst educated states is still at least trying something different. Reminds me of DA and keep doing what you’re doing.

But poor states with bad education are ALWAYS trying something- every year it’s a new thing
Every august teacher PDs are filled with ‘learn this new bandaid approach’
And vet teachers realize it’s all repackaging
These approaches never work bc the problem of US education can’t really be fixed inside schools- your zip code determines what kind of education your getting more than anything else - until that’s addressed, no political posturing is going to do much

The DA comparison is instructive, while most of us look at end stats as meaningful in and of themselves, the answer to last season was really the health on production on the Lines
Changing QBs and WRs didn’t fix anything
If Carr does substantially better, it will more than likely be improved/healthy Line play

 

[bonnjer]

But poor states with bad education are ALWAYS trying something- every year it’s a new thing
Every august teacher PDs are filled with ‘learn this new bandaid approach’
And vet teachers realize it’s all repackaging
These approaches never work bc the problem of US education can’t really be fixed inside schools- your zip code determines what kind of education your getting more than anything else - until that’s addressed, no political posturing is going to do much

You're absolutely right on this. I can't tell you how many "silver bullets" I've seen in my 24 years now. The amount of money spent on these various programs is probably mind blowing. I say probably because they never really tell us how much they've spent on things. At this point in my career, I follow their requirements as little as I can get away with and just teach as much as I can.

 

[SWJJ]

The truth is our societal failures are exasperating our educational failures. If you are traumatized because there is gun violence in your neighborhood, you will not be able to learn. If you are hungry, you will not be able to learn. If you have to help parent your younger siblings you will not be able to learn.

Some will discount me but those who have studied ACEs know the truth. These children growing up with acute traumatic experiences have higher results of negative outcomes. The more of these experiences, the greater the chances of negative outcomes.

If we want to fix our education, we need to provide children a safe neighborhood, proper healthcare, and social safety nets that ensure they have food and don’t go hungry.


But that sounds too much like socialism so we refuse to do that.

 

[brandon8283]

You're absolutely right on this. I can't tell you how many "silver bullets" I've seen in my 24 years now. The amount of money spent on these various programs is probably mind blowing. I say probably because they never really tell us how much they've spent on things. At this point in my career, I follow their requirements as little as I can get away with and just teach as much as I can.

I remember the first time I saw “thinking maps” and found out our district had paid a consulting company something like $50,000 to give them a list of graphic organizers that we were going to be forced to shoehorn into every lesson.

I was pissed.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I remember the first time I saw “thinking maps” and found out our district had paid a consulting company something like $50,000 to give them a list of graphic organizers that we were going to be forced to shoehorn into every lesson.

I was P'Oed.

Every **** year

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Whatever a man sows, that he will also reap

 

[bonnjer]

Whatever a man sows, that he will also reap

So ONE parent complained and they were like, "Oh, sorry, let us take care of that for you"?? There's so much wrong with this.

 

[Sun Wukong]

You're absolutely right on this. I can't tell you how many "silver bullets" I've seen in my 24 years now. The amount of money spent on these various programs is probably mind blowing. I say probably because they never really tell us how much they've spent on things. At this point in my career, I follow their requirements as little as I can get away with and just teach as much as I can.

There is no field on the face of this planet more full of snake oil than public education. Every huckster has a program, platform, curriculum, etc. to sell that is "research based" (a phrase that means nothing) and will fix all of your problems. And nothing ever changes despite all the money spent. You try it for a few years, it doesn't work, then the district/administration comes back with the latest bullshirt and says "Ok, that other stuff didn't work, but this stuff is proven. So and so district has seen it work." and then it doesn't work either and it didn't *really* work for so and so district, despite the claims. It's all so pathetic.

My first district, which was very poor, spent 50k on this DBQ initiative that was 'proven" to raise scores across the board in Social Studies, it didn't work (surprise) and it was abandoned less than two years later.

 

[Sun Wukong]

Practice for sure. I know some schools already do this but a STEM like course for a few weeks during the summer would be great for older kids. I also don’t think one of the poorest parts of the country, with the lowest education metric scores, needs to be taking almost 4 months worth of breaks a year. I see Mississippi has shortened their summers by a week and that is a step forward. I hear it all the time from my family in Louisiana about a week off for mardi gras etc. Just seems kind of backbuttwards for a state that is known for bad education.

This is flawed thinking. The issue isn't time in the classroom. It's socio-economic, full stop. You could add two months to the school year with the kids I'm dealing with right now and it would improve nothing and in fact would probably make things worse. For them, me, and the school at large. Their academic issues are part of a larger, deeper problem that no one in a classroom setting has the resources or abilities to fix on a meaningful scale.

 

[bonnjer]

This is flawed thinking. The issue isn't time in the classroom. It's socio-economic, full stop. You could add two months to the school year with the kids I'm dealing with right now and it would improve nothing and in fact would probably make things worse. For them, me, and the school at large. Their academic issues are part of a larger, deeper problem that no one in a classroom setting has the resources or abilities to fix on a meaningful scale.

Yes, yes, yes. It's just easier to blame teachers when the almighty state test scores are not good. We have exactly ZERO control over what happens when the students leave our classroom. We can't go home and help them study. We can't go home and make them get enough sleep. We can't go home and make sure they have food to eat.

 

[Sun Wukong]

Yes, yes, yes. It's just easier to blame teachers when the almighty state test scores are not good. We have exactly ZERO control over what happens when the students leave our classroom. We can't go home and help them study. We can't go home and make them get enough sleep. We can't go home and make sure they have food to eat.

Nope.

Back in April, I was teaching a class (worst I've ever had behaviorally and academically. Was literally like something out of a movie.) and I was trying to motivate a couple of students who I felt actually had potential they were no living up to. They weren't engaging in test prep so I tried talking to them. The response I got was this, verbatim:

"School don't mean nothing. You don't need school to make money. I can make more than you selling drugs."

The fork am I supposed to do with that? That's so fundamentally forking broken that you're going to hold that kid's scores against me? fork outta here with that. He made an Unsat, btw. Shocking,

 

[bonnjer]

In a move to should come as no surprise to Louisiana educators, we didn't get permanent pay raise. The legislators, with their large budget surplus, were kind enough to grant us a one-time stipend, so that was nice of them.

Louisiana lawmakers pass state budget plan with only temporary teacher pay increase • Louisiana Illuminator

The Louisiana Legislature passed a budget plan Thursday that includes a $2,000 temporary hike for teachers, as well as hundreds of millions of dollars for universities, transportation needs, coastal restoration and legislators’ pet projects in their home communities.

lailluminator.com

 

[Eeyore]

Teacher shot by first-grader was fired, attorney says. Email to division: ‘I wish to resign’

First-grade teacher Abby Zwerner who was shot by her 6-year-old student in January no longer works for Newport News Public Schools.

fox2now.com