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If you have a PhD and 25 years experience in Terrebonne Parish, you only make $57K, not even the national average.
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Louisiana is a good $5,000 below the southern average. Other states are about to increase pay and widen that gap.
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This is a big thing with me. I signed a contract to be a teacher, not a nurse or a janitor or IT support for everyone in my hall. And yet here I am being forced to determine if maybe a kid really does have covid and needs to go to the office or if they're just milking the system to get out of class. All the while administration screams about too many kids in the nurse's office. Or having to sweep my own floor and take out my own garbage multiple times a day because our old janitor retired and the new guy can't be bothered to actually do anything, so if I don't so it no one will. Or having to take my entire class to the bathroom at one time despite them being 7th graders because the fighting and vandalism are literally so bad that they can't be unsupervised, ever, and the principal has mandated it. Or me having to drop everything to deal with someone's Google Classroom problem, or trouble shoot their Chromebook for the thousandth time.
I wear a lot of hats. I get paid for one, and poorly at that.
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Something is wrong when the general public denigrates teachers like I’ve heard the last two years.
LA ranks 16th for lowest cost of living; MS is 1st. LA ranks 8th for lowest teacher pay at 50288; MS is 1st at 45k. A $1500 raise would move LA to 17th and be inline with cost of living rank.
Using average teacher pay without considering cost of living difference makes little sense. Cali, NY, and a few other east coast states with very high cost of living skew the average.
Also, I don’t think comparing teacher salaries and the 10 weeks of vacation plus pension/drop to the general workers wage is fair.
That said, there are problems when 10 weeks of vacation and a pension isn’t enough to keep people.
LA ranks 16th for lowest cost of living; MS is 1st. LA ranks 8th for lowest teacher pay at 50288; MS is 1st at 45k. A $1500 raise would move LA to 17th and be inline with cost of living rank.
Using average teacher pay without considering cost of living difference makes little sense. Cali, NY, and a few other east coast states with very high cost of living skew the average.
Also, I don’t think comparing teacher salaries and the 10 weeks of vacation plus pension/drop to the general workers wage is fair.
That said, there are problems when 10 weeks of vacation and a pension isn’t enough to keep people.
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The average teacher pay in the US is $64,133. The average in Louisiana? $51,566. LOL. Have no fear, JBE is proposing a $1500 raise.
My district goes to year 14 and then is done. So by the time you add in increasing insurance and the pathetic 1-2% raises we get every so often (going on year three of 0), I’m getting less at year 25 than I did at year 13…….
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Opinion: I've been teaching for 3 decades, and I see Iowa schools cut and cut as state funding remains meager
Former Des Moines Public Schools teacher: Please get out of the Capitol, visit schools, get to know all teachers, put politics away and help children.
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In Several States, Teachers Get Their Biggest Raise in Decades
After rocky teacher shortages that saw classrooms led by police officers, the National Guard and even a governor, a small but growing number of states are approving significant pay raises for teachers. In some states, especially those that rank low on the pay scale, the salary boost is the...
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Meanwhile, in Louisiana, the legislature is birching about having to come up with a $1500 raise.
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Our local school district is offering teachers a $500 one-time bonus if they sign their 2021-22 contracts now..
The teacher exodus is not just about the pay, the classroom environment is unruly.. lack of student self discipline, absolute disregard for any authority, little (if any) mgmt support, near constant threat of lawsuit from anyone with the slightest perceived beef and on and on.
Just this week…A student wasn’t pleased about having to walk during recess instead of hanging with her friends… said loudly, “I’m going to go home, tell my Momma and have this teacher fired..”… 4th grader.
There are daily stories similar to this.. it never ends.
These teachers are exhausted and feel beat-up.
The teacher exodus is not just about the pay, the classroom environment is unruly.. lack of student self discipline, absolute disregard for any authority, little (if any) mgmt support, near constant threat of lawsuit from anyone with the slightest perceived beef and on and on.
Just this week…A student wasn’t pleased about having to walk during recess instead of hanging with her friends… said loudly, “I’m going to go home, tell my Momma and have this teacher fired..”… 4th grader.
There are daily stories similar to this.. it never ends.
These teachers are exhausted and feel beat-up.
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You teach in Texas? I assume "wrong side of the Sabine" is Texas.
My wife had been contemplating putting in for a transfer earlier this year, and was waffling on it. But then her principal called her into her office to berate her for discussing a student incident with the instructional coach. My wife came home, and completed the transfer form online. That was the last straw. He's been able to get a 4th grade ELAR position at the school in the ISD she really wants to teach at, so she's happy.But yeah, students feeling empowered to threaten a teacher's job is not new. They're getting that empowerment from the home. Maybe one day when there's not enough teachers, and classroom sizes have to increase thereby reducing the teaching effectiveness, some of these parents may start to calm down. I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Yall sure aint making Dad feel all warm and fuzzy about daughter #1 leaving for SELU this fall to get her MA in Education.
Ugh.
My have to invoke the "c'mere son" talk. lol
Ugh.
My have to invoke the "c'mere son" talk. lol
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I could lie to you, and obviously some situations are better than others, but public education is a complete forking disaster and it absolutely takes a toll on teachers. I wish I had a time machine to prevent myself from ever getting involved with it.
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My wife has masters + 30 and 26 years. She made 82k last year and gets a raise next year. She’s special Ed and the caseload sucks. 50-55 hrs per week.
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We just drove 6hrs from Houston to SoLa for Good Friday with family.. For 4hrs I heard, in great detail, all the woes and ills of my wife’s current 4th grade teaching position. IMHO, her situation is especially bad due to incredibly inept administration… they should ALL be fired, the whole lot.
Wife is NOT signing her 2021-22 contract, turning in resignation within a few days…. There are 7 elementary schools within 10min drive of our home, next yr she’ll sub at all the schools and decide which one she wants to join.. ASSUMING there will be openings once final student counts are determined and IF she wants to go back permanent.. There is nothing more my wife would love to do than teach little ones. Nnominated for teacher of the year >75% of years, turned in her paperwork once and won it… when you have someone so wholly dedicated and passionate about the profession saying they’ve had enough, something is awfully wrong.
Wife is NOT signing her 2021-22 contract, turning in resignation within a few days…. There are 7 elementary schools within 10min drive of our home, next yr she’ll sub at all the schools and decide which one she wants to join.. ASSUMING there will be openings once final student counts are determined and IF she wants to go back permanent.. There is nothing more my wife would love to do than teach little ones. Nnominated for teacher of the year >75% of years, turned in her paperwork once and won it… when you have someone so wholly dedicated and passionate about the profession saying they’ve had enough, something is awfully wrong.
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