Elvis' 2025 cap and roster cleanup proposal (66 Viewers)

[St. Widge]

Lets say you keep Carr and most of the roster intact for the next two years. What is the realistic best case for the team? Maybe we win the South? Maybe sneak out a playoff victory? The ceiling for this team is just not that high. Let's say we do win the South in 25-26, what then? Do we resign Carr. By 27 we are likely moving on or have moved on from Mathieu, Davis, Hill and Kamara. Not sure I see the upside of keeping this core together for a small chance at winning the division.

Carr is a fine QB, I think in the right support system with the right talent he could be a good QB, but I don't think he is the future for the Saints. By moving on from Carr now, it forces the team to start thinking about the long term future at QB. Give Rattler a year to see if he can develop and then if he does not got get the QB that Moore wants to build around.

Underhill made a good point about the Steelers on a pod the other day, about how they have a great organization that always has a winning record but have been unable to make any real SB run. Yeah it's nice when when you keep making the playoffs but even that can get stagnate after some time. Caught in this loop of always being good enough to win 9-12 games a year but never good enough to win it all.

I don't want want the Saints to get into this stagnate loop of mediocrity. Sometimes you just have to pull the band aid off.

Honestly if we were in a position to win 9 to 12 games every year it would be fine because you never know when you do take that jump up to be in or win a Super Bowl. Frankly if you are winning 9 to 12 every year you are one of the top 10 teams in the NFL. To get to the next level, you have to get lucky and get a franchise QB like Mahomes. Realistically you have to have that to be more than a consistent 9 to 12 win team.

The problem is that we aren't that right now. Right now we are a consistent 7 to 9 win team that just won 5. That's not a position you want to be in and with our formerly great, expensive players more or less done, it's time to do the rebuild. Frankly, it's happening no matter what we do so we might as well get it all done in one year to give Moore a clean slate in 2026. If we get really lucky, maybe we sneak into the playoffs with Rattler. If not then we get better draft picks to continue the rebuild.

 

[No2DC]

Bud, sometimes you are hilarious. NOWHERE has it been reported that the incoming HC will have a FEW YEARS grace period. What has been rumored is that the FO will be patient with the new HC . A few years ( which means at least 3) of tanking/losing will get any HC fired and the fan base and the team running away from the team in droves LOL LOL LOL

Damn, we actually agree on something. The whole grace period thing is being thrown around too casually now. If any coach is not winning by the second year they are sitting on a serious hot seat.

 

[Elvis]

Damn, we actually agree on something. The whole grace period thing is being thrown around too casually now. If any coach is not winning by the second year they are sitting on a serious hot seat.

No coach worth having is going to accept the pile of crap that DA and Loomis made without some assurances that they'll have an opportunity to reset it and then build a team. That is why it is important to do what I've outlined in the first post. It gets the team $42 million in cap space in June and has the rest of the bad contracts gone by the first day of the league year in 2026 with cap space to spare. Trade back in the draft for more top 100 picks this year and next and we'll have something.