ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler: Saints Head Coach opening is a coveted job among people I’ve spoken to; Mike McCarthy could have interest (35 Viewers)

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ESPN+ article blurb from this morning. I bolded a comment that I found interesting:

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Any updates on the Jets, Saints and Bears openings?​

Fowler: The Saints are taking a low-key approach, with sources telling me that, as of Wednesday afternoon, their candidate list hadn't grown past Lions defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn, Eagles offensive coordinator Kellen Moore, the Bills' Brady, Dolphins defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver, current interim coach Darren Rizzi, Giants offensive coordinator Mike Kafka and Vrabel. I expect that list to expand, but the Saints were using these seven as a launching point.

This is a coveted job among people I've spoken to recently. I've heard that Cowboys coach Mike McCarthy could have some interest, so it wouldn't shock if the Saints try to talk to him should he be free to do so (McCarthy's contract with the Cowboys expires Tuesday). Glenn still seems like the favorite, but he could have options. Glenn and Brady both have New Orleans connectivity as former Saints staffers.

Graziano: Agreed that Glenn seems like the favorite in New Orleans. He's extremely well regarded in that building and very well known because he previously worked there.
 
ESPN+ article blurb from this morning. I bolded a comment that I found interesting:

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Any updates on the Jets, Saints and Bears openings?​

Fowler: The Saints are taking a low-key approach, with sources telling me that, as of Wednesday afternoon, their candidate list hadn't grown past Lions defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn, Eagles offensive coordinator Kellen Moore, the Bills' Brady, Dolphins defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver, current interim coach Darren Rizzi, Giants offensive coordinator Mike Kafka and Vrabel. I expect that list to expand, but the Saints were using these seven as a launching point.

This is a coveted job among people I've spoken to recently. I've heard that Cowboys coach Mike McCarthy could have some interest, so it wouldn't shock if the Saints try to talk to him should he be free to do so (McCarthy's contract with the Cowboys expires Tuesday). Glenn still seems like the favorite, but he could have options. Glenn and Brady both have New Orleans connectivity as former Saints staffers.

Graziano: Agreed that Glenn seems like the favorite in New Orleans. He's extremely well regarded in that building and very well known because he previously worked there.

Interesting. He's saying the Saints job is coveted? That would be opposite of what most have speculated.
 
ESPN+ article blurb from this morning. I bolded a comment that I found interesting:

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Any updates on the Jets, Saints and Bears openings?​

Fowler: The Saints are taking a low-key approach, with sources telling me that, as of Wednesday afternoon, their candidate list hadn't grown past Lions defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn, Eagles offensive coordinator Kellen Moore, the Bills' Brady, Dolphins defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver, current interim coach Darren Rizzi, Giants offensive coordinator Mike Kafka and Vrabel. I expect that list to expand, but the Saints were using these seven as a launching point.

This is a coveted job among people I've spoken to recently. I've heard that Cowboys coach Mike McCarthy could have some interest, so it wouldn't shock if the Saints try to talk to him should he be free to do so (McCarthy's contract with the Cowboys expires Tuesday). Glenn still seems like the favorite, but he could have options. Glenn and Brady both have New Orleans connectivity as former Saints staffers.

Graziano: Agreed that Glenn seems like the favorite in New Orleans. He's extremely well regarded in that building and very well known because he previously worked there.

That is interesting. I never agreed with the narrative that this was clearly the worst of the available jobs, but I didn't expect anyone to say it was a coveted job. I hope Fowler is right.
 
Interesting. He's saying the Saints job is coveted? That would be opposite of what most have speculated.
Because people overestimate certain aspects of a job (salary cap and current roster) and underestimate other aspects like job security, how tough the division is, and a team's general culture.

The Saints have a strong FO culture regardless of Loomis' recent fumbles that coaches can trust won't screw them over. We also play in the weakest division in the NFC (maybe football?). If a head coach comes in knowing he's got at least fours years (something we are likely to offer), he can take his lumps the first season with the cap and roster and be set up in year two to do big things.

Anyone going to the Jets/Raiders/Jags could be getting fired two years from now, and prospects know it. Even the Bears is a questionable job. That division is brutal and Caleb Williams is a complete weirdo.

NE is head and shoulders above all the other open jobs.
 
Let's keep it real, most fans here are just speculating and have zero idea of what goes on in NFL circles. Yes, we all have been down on our team for a few season now, but think about it. An owner that doesn't meddle. Some real talent on the team, especially if Rattler grows. Rabid fan base. I think what most are overlooking is a chance for a coach to come in and no pressure, but really be able to build a team. Just my opinion.
 
Because people overestimate certain aspects of a job (salary cap and current roster) and underestimate other aspects like job security, how tough the division is, and a team's general culture.

The Saints have a strong FO culture regardless of Loomis' recent fumbles that coaches can trust won't screw them over. We also play in the weakest division in the NFC (maybe football?). If a head coach comes in knowing he's got at least fours years (something we are likely to offer), he can take his lumps the first season with the cap and roster and be set up in year two to do big things.

Anyone going to the Jets/Raiders/Jags could be getting fired two years from now, and prospects know it. Even the Bears is a questionable job. That division is brutal and Caleb Williams is a complete weirdo.

NE is head and shoulders above all the other open jobs.
It's not really different than any other profession. Who you are working for is a whole lot more important that who is working for you. Especially when you have some say in the latter.
 
ESPN+ article blurb from this morning. I bolded a comment that I found interesting:

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Any updates on the Jets, Saints and Bears openings?​

Fowler: The Saints are taking a low-key approach, with sources telling me that, as of Wednesday afternoon, their candidate list hadn't grown past Lions defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn, Eagles offensive coordinator Kellen Moore, the Bills' Brady, Dolphins defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver, current interim coach Darren Rizzi, Giants offensive coordinator Mike Kafka and Vrabel. I expect that list to expand, but the Saints were using these seven as a launching point.

This is a coveted job among people I've spoken to recently. I've heard that Cowboys coach Mike McCarthy could have some interest, so it wouldn't shock if the Saints try to talk to him should he be free to do so (McCarthy's contract with the Cowboys expires Tuesday). Glenn still seems like the favorite, but he could have options. Glenn and Brady both have New Orleans connectivity as former Saints staffers.

Graziano: Agreed that Glenn seems like the favorite in New Orleans. He's extremely well regarded in that building and very well known because he previously worked there.

Jets, Raiders, Jags are organizational messes. I think Caleb’s ceiling is Russell Wilson but the Bears are a good option. Pats are the gem of jobs.

Loomis will go to bat for his HC and give them full control. His reticence to fire DA, willingness to turnover assistant coaching staff, and signing of Carr shows those things. Saints are a mid-tier option this year.
 
So coveted that we are one of the only teams with an opening to not get an interview with the top name.
so the criteria of being coveted is one diva coordinator's opinion?

but yet...

vrabel
joe brady
aaron glenn (who we rejected already)
anthony weaver
and name your continued growing list are all interviewing with us.

we aren't chumps. we may not be everyone's cup of tea... let me fill you in on a secret.... we were NEVER a top tier destination city to coach. NEVER we were considered this.
 
why wouldn’t it be coveted? i know as far as players we’re kinda bare but this organization has had stability since 2006 pretty much
 
I think it's pretty clear that the saints are in the lower tier of the availabilities. I understand we have a stable FO and we are going to give more of a leash, but it's risky to come here and lose for 2 years and then possibly get fired. Salary cap, lack of talent, especially young talent, makes this a tough sell. That being said, there are only 32 of these jobs, so any vacancy is "coveted." I do with Raiders had not fired their coach. The less openings the better.
 
why wouldn’t it be coveted? i know as far as players we’re kinda bare but this organization has had stability since 2006 pretty much
Lack of talent, lack of youth, lack of cap money. Oh and we're tied to aging players that are on their way out and a mediocre QB (well, at least we're tied to either the aging players or the mediocre qb)
 

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