For anyone who says Carr is just a stat padder and don’t win: (8 Viewers)

[DSnfla]

QB has really always been the least of our issues. I agree with this. I think Carr being here another season has zero downside.

And it's one of the reasons I'd like to keep Kubiak if possible. His system is perfect for DC. Plus learning 3 different systems in 3 yrs is counterproductive. Our OL is better built for a wide zone scheme. We have AK for 2 more yrs it's a better scheme for him and Miller when he's healthy

 

[DSnfla]

You're using excuses to cover up a decade of facts. Carr is a sub par quarterback his record proves it.

LOL again , another person that thinks that the QB is solely responsible for the W/L record of a team It boggles the mind how people can be SO wrong on this. Again I'll explain it for you. A QB does not play DEFENSE. If an offense has a 60/40 pass-run split that means that the QB is handing off the ball 40% of the time. But YOU think that it the QB that is responsible for winning or losing the game. SMH SMH SMH

 

[DSnfla]

Carr is a top 18 QB that shows glimpes of top 10 QB moments when everything is perfect around him, and glimpes of bottom 25 QB play when things are not. Problem is, it's the NFL and more often than not, everything isn't going to be great so you're stuck w/ a QB who more often than not gives you top 20 QB play.

I don't think everything has to be perfect around DC for him to be a top 10 QB. He does like any other QB need a good offense and defense around him. Which is why I'm in favor of building a good supporting cast around him that way when we find his successor is found we'll be good to go

 

[Mr.Blonde]

LOL again , another person that thinks that the QB is solely responsible for the W/L record of a team It boggles the mind how people can be SO wrong on this. Again I'll explain it for you. A QB does not play DEFENSE. If an offense has a 60/40 pass-run split that means that the QB is handing off the ball 40% of the time. But YOU think that it the QB that is responsible for winning or losing the game. SMH SMH SMH

You're Right. Derek Carr as the QB had nothing to do with any of his losses. Got it. It's a shame he's really good at everything but winning.

 

[lilvipa221]

There is no way if Derek Carr had went to the Falcons or Panthers and went 14-13 as a starter that people would be singing the Derek Carr just needs more help song. Nobody on this board was a Carr apologist when he was with the Raiders. Any player in the NFL can look better than what he is if you nitpick enough.

Bottom line is that this team is so far off from being a contender that we do not have the ability to stack the team or attract a top head coach while Carr will be here and able to play at the level he is now.

He is neither the problem or the solution and he is so much better than our alternatives that we will just win pointless games and go no where significant with him that will hinder us from getting what we need.

 

[Rouxble]

And it's one of the reasons I'd like to keep Kubiak if possible. His system is perfect for DC. Plus learning 3 different systems in 3 yrs is counterproductive. Our OL is better built for a wide zone scheme. We have AK for 2 more yrs it's a better scheme for him and Miller when he's healthy

I agree that it's likely counterproductive to bring in a third system. That said, the next HC could always bring in another guy from the Shanahan/McVay tree to keep the verbiage and core concepts similar.

Interesting enough, we finished 14th on rushing DVOA this year after finishing 11th in 2023. Injuries certainly played a role, but I doubt many would expect us to have finished that high last year.