Gene edited baby (1 Viewer)

[LA_Steve]

Article was pretty rough. His use of He's was mind numbing. How it ever made it past the editor is a mystery.

 

[Stealth Matrix]

If humans reach a point that the Earth's resources can't sustain as many humans then there won't be as many humans, what's the big deal? I don't get the popularity of this idea that human "over-population" is a threat to the Earth.

More people
More mouths to feed
More land needed for agriculture and livestock
More trees that need clearing causing more of this climate change every body is raving about
More people living in ever closer quarters/cities
More chances for an epidemic disease to take hold
More chances it causes population collapse

 

[LonghornSaint]

I support the concept of gene editing babies, but I think we're still a long way off from being able to willy nilly change any gene any which way (which is what many people who don't actually understand the science are afraid that is what is being done) . Crispr does not work like that.

 

[Optimus Prime]

BEIJING (AP) — A Chinese scientist who set off an ethical debate with claims that he had made the world’s first genetically edited babies was sentenced Monday to three years in prison because of his research, state media said.

He Jiankui, who was convicted of practicing medicine without a license, was also fined 3 million yuan ($430,000) by a court in the southern city of Shenzhen, China’s official Xinhua News Agency reported.

Two other researchers involved in the project received lesser sentences and fines...........

China convicts 3 researchers involved in gene-edited babies

BEIJING (AP) — A Chinese scientist who set off an ethical debate with claims that he had made the world's first genetically edited babies was sentenced Monday to three years in prison because of his research, state media said.

apnews.com

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

OP OP i appreciate that you do the best of any of us with following up your own threads

 

[GeauxWhoDats]

 

[WhoDatPhan78]

Unintended consequences may be good or bad, but they are almost always unpredictable.

I don’t have a moral exception, but I think that there some areas where the risk posed by negative unintended consequences is too great to risk. I think I feel that way about this, at least until we know more, which I get would be hard if I didn’t want to allow research.

Of course if I applied that standard to physics we wouldn’t have giant colliders for fear of us sucking ourselves into a tiny black hole.

 

[LonghornSaint]

Article was pretty rough. His use of He's was mind numbing. How it ever made it past the editor is a mystery.

One interesting thing about article is that He totally ignored ethical input after seeking it out. Also, He used crispr to induce 2 mutations into the gene, and those specific mutations have not been previously studied, so He really did not know just how protective they will be against HIV. He’s experimentation on humans was a huge huge ethical blunder. Moreover, they will never be able to tell how well He’s work will perform, it’s not like they could ethically try to give the twins HIV in the future to test it out...if He’s work failed, then those two will get HIV infected.

Oh, I also meant to point out the Chinese scientists name is He...

 

[Dago]

He-Man, Master of the Universe (in his own mind)

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

hmm...I do not not want Orcs

 

[Det. Brees]

If we don't do this how will we evolve into a race that has to travel back in time to kidnap humans, take them back to the future and try to fix what we screwed up?

 

[zeetes]

niiiiiiiice nip slip

 

[LonghornSaint]

CRISPR BABIES - the team name of a bar trivial pursuit team i was on about a year ago. Again, i cautiously support the development of this field, but iam also very aware of the potential for misuse and unwanted problems. That Chinese scientist is THE PRIME example of problems and ethical failings. It could even be worse, at least He was trying to prevent possible future HIV infection. What if he was doing the opposite or something equally evil? This field is moving forward whether we want it to or not, so I hope for strict oversight and extreme repercussions in the event of malfeasance.

 

[0rion]

I wouldn't know where to start debating this....mainly because I don't know exactly how I feel about it. I don't feel it's right but I see major upsides to it and I also see potential for disaster. Such a confusing subject for me.
I do feel it's going to happen at some point because ethics always takes a back seat to science eventually. If it's for sure going to happen do you want to be in front of it or behind it?

 

[Optimus Prime]

In November 2018, a Chinese scientist named He Jiankui shocked the world when he announced that he had deliberately tweaked the genes of two embryos to make them resistant to the AIDS virus, HIV.

He did that using CRISPR gene editing, an ingenious system that allows little molecular scissors to snip bits of DNA. Molecular scissors aren’t new — scientists have been using them to cut DNA since the 1970s — but CRISPR is considered a snip above because its little scissors are so flexible, it’s infinitely easier to target specific DNA sequences.

He’s “goal was to make the gene inoperative and thus deprive HIV of that gateway for infection,” Stanford University bioethicist Henry T. Greely writes in his new book, “CRISPR People: The Science and Ethics of Editing Humans.” “Two edited embryos, of nonidentical twin sisters, were transferred into their mother’s uterus sometime in late March or early April 2018. Sometime in October, somewhere in China, they were born.”

The birth of those twins marked the first time scientists had tinkered with the human genome to pass some trait along to the next generation. In a very real sense (and this was the problem), He and his team were using CRISPR to short-circuit more than a billion years of evolution. They had created CRISPR babies, unleashing fears that the next inevitable step would be designer babies.............

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