Goodell keeps getting hammered (2 Viewers)

[albionmoonlight]

In fairness to the NFL, correcting ESPN's mistakes would be a pretty full-time undertaking for any organization.

 

[CountWhoDat]

I wonder what would have happened if Duncan would have taken the Saints side. Instead the national media got to quote him bashing the Saints, which justified their position, over and over. What if Duncan instead wrote about how in "15000" pages there were 7 pages with anything to do with bounties with the "smoking gun" being an actual picture of Dog the bounty hunter.

Why would the national media question anything when the main local guy is like "yep they did it". He really screwed us on that one. Like in hindsight maybe worse than we thought.

Egg-zackly. Duncan helped to set a narrative about Bountygate that has persisted to this day. The legal wranglings that followed did a little to dampen Goodell's enthusiasm about making a point, but not much. I think Duncan saw an opportunity to both 1.) raise his national profile and 2.) get back at Payton and the organization for perceived slights.

If Finney is Vito, Duncan is Fredo.

 

[RetroMcBananaFace]

I've often wondered that about Duncan too. He didn't, as SP would say, "Do his job." Things might have turned out a little differently if he had.

Safe to say his career has paid the price for it though.

 

[RazorOye]

Nothing will ever make up for that bounty fiasco.

But I thought I'd never want to hear about it again, and now that's changed. I like the fact that it keeps coming up. Nothing will bring our picks back or our coach back or that season back.

Nothing can be done about that.

But, going forward, the fact that it's really the starting point for the Commissioner's fraudulent and irresponsible and megalomaniacal and arbitrary handling of the league is at least a bit satisfying. Many people see the fraud of the bountygate and will point to his ineptness and his lack of concern for truth or transparency, to the point of having a former Commissioner step in and contradict him publicly.

I've gone from not wanting to hear about it at all to wanting them to bring it up every possible opportunity because now it serves as an albatross around his neck.

 

[ClayT101]

Did the NFL actually ever say how many balls were under inflated. My impression was that it was an ESPN report (from a leaked source). If the NFL never officially released that information, why would they correct the report?

I hate Goodell as much as the next person, but if what I stated above is correct, then that is all that he needs to say. Now, it would be interesting if the judge asked him if he was aware that the NFL leaked that story to ESPN. That would open up a whole new can of worms and it would become very interesting. If that were to happen, then I could see Goodell getting fired as the NFL would need a scapegoat.

 

[Saint_Ward]

I can't post from here, but if you want a decent Twitter play by play of the legal questions and the judge burning both sides (he really really really wants them to settle), check out @PPVSRB (Steven Brown), Manhattan Federal Court Reporter. Lots of good Tweets.

 

[RetroMcBananaFace]

Nothing will ever make up for that bounty fiasco.

But I thought I'd never want to hear about it again, and now that's changed. I like the fact that it keeps coming up. Nothing will bring our picks back or our coach back or that season back.

Nothing can be done about that.

But, going forward, the fact that it's really the starting point for the Commissioner's fraudulent and irresponsible and megalomaniacal and arbitrary handling of the league is at least a bit satisfying. Many people see the fraud of the bountygate and will point to his ineptness and his lack of concern for truth or transparency, to the point of having a former Commissioner step in and contradict him publicly.

I've gone from not wanting to hear about it at all to wanting them to bring it up every possible opportunity because now it serves as an albatross around his neck.

The word you are looking for is "vindication" and I agree 100%. I am following this as hard as I ever did Bountygate near the end. Nothing would make me happier than to see Goodell go down in flames.

 

[Saint_Ward]

Nothing will ever make up for that bounty fiasco.

But I thought I'd never want to hear about it again, and now that's changed. I like the fact that it keeps coming up. Nothing will bring our picks back or our coach back or that season back.

Nothing can be done about that.

But, going forward, the fact that it's really the starting point for the Commissioner's fraudulent and irresponsible and megalomaniacal and arbitrary handling of the league is at least a bit satisfying. Many people see the fraud of the bountygate and will point to his ineptness and his lack of concern for truth or transparency, to the point of having a former Commissioner step in and contradict him publicly.

I've gone from not wanting to hear about it at all to wanting them to bring it up every possible opportunity because now it serves as an albatross around his neck.

Here's the dark truth. The owners are totally ok with this. Sure, they'd rather it be quieter, but they don't mind taking legal action to ensure they have ultimate power over these players. They don't mind Goodell taking the heat for this, so long as they still retain the power and that cash cow keeps growing.

 

[RetroMcBananaFace]

Did the NFL actually ever say how many balls were under inflated. My impression was that it was an ESPN report (from a leaked source). If the NFL never officially released that information, why would they correct the report?

From what I've read about Judge Berman he is not going to let things slip through on technicalities. It's obvious the NFL leaked the info, because who else could've possibly done it? Just because they didn't "officially" release the info, doesn't mean they didn't do it. I would actually love to see Goodell try to pull that line out because he would get fried by the judge.

 

[RetroMcBananaFace]

Mike Loyko ‏@NEPD_Loyko 22s22 seconds ago
.@AdamSchefter and Sall said "Berman told the NFL that they better come to grips that a settlement in favor of the NFLPA is very possible"

 

[Professor]

Personally, I have such mixed feelings about this whole thing. It makes me mad that nobody stuck up for the Saints during Bountygate the way people have this time. But on the other hand this Judge Berman isn't letting Goodell squirm out of the tough questions - I really think Goodell's time as commissioner is growing short.

Florio, who wrote this article at PFT, is the one person who--after looking at everything, such as the dearth of actual evidence and the use of silly bits and pieces as so-called "evidence"--is the one person who started questioning Goodell and his motives during the bounty scandal. He's at it again. My guess is there is no love lost between these two and Florio is out to have him replaced eventually.

I disagree with some that are saying Goodell's days are numbered. I believe this is wishful thinking. He is making the owners a lot of money, and that's what he is truly the commissioner of--their bank accounts. On that front he is doing a remarkable job.

 

[Swimmer]

Goodell avoids question on league

That’s a lot of words, none of which directly answer the question. It’s obvious that the league doesn’t want to answer the question, because there is no good answer. But that doesn’t excuse the chronic failure to address the situation directly, or to investigate the leak that became a report that turned a curiosity into a hashtag.
Here’s some free legal advice for the NFL. If Judge Richard M. Berman asks Goodell or one of the lawyers that same question tomorrow, Judge Berman will keep asking it until he gets a direct answer.


Personally, I have such mixed feelings about this whole thing. It makes me mad that nobody stuck up for the Saints during Bountygate the way people have this time. But on the other hand this Judge Berman isn't letting Goodell squirm out of the tough questions - I really think Goodell's time as commissioner is growing short.

Thanks for your post. I feel your pain.

I see this as positive. Boston is a major NFL market. Kraft is one of the more powerful owners. Benson with the very small size of the New Orleans market simply does not have the stroke. There's a lot of powerful press questioning and deriding Goodell over the deflated footballs. If the clout of the Boston market and media can force legit investigation of Goodell to show his tactics, his emotional based actions, his vendettas and overall terrible decision making in penalizing franchises, we may finally have the truth revealed about Bountygate.

 

[marccooper]

Barry Bonds got some kind of criminal sentence that took years to overturn for answering one question indirectly in court. Why not give Goodell the same, sentence him to obstruction of justice for answering indirectly.

 

[bobad]

If death by 1000 cuts is Goodell's karma, I'm fine with it.

 

[Hedon James]

Florio, who wrote this article at PFT, is the one person who--after looking at everything, such as the dearth of actual evidence and the use of silly bits and pieces as so-called "evidence"--is the one person who started questioning Goodell and his motives during the bounty scandal. He's at it again. My guess is there is no love lost between these two and Florio is out to have him replaced eventually.

I disagree with some that are saying Goodell's days are numbered. I believe this is wishful thinking. He is making the owners a lot of money, and that's what he is truly the commissioner of--their bank accounts. On that front he is doing a remarkable job.

He may have been hired to be commissioner of their bank accounts, but he should've stuck to that, then. Somewhere along the way, he has veered off and appointed himself commissioner of the league's integrity. But when the integrity of the league's "integrity commissioner" is questioned, the league has a problem!

So I think his days are numbered too. Unfortunately, this cat appears to have 9 lives, and I'm not sure which one he is currently on. But make no mistake...when you have appointed yourself commissioner of the league's integrity, but YOUR integrity is what continues to be questioned, you won't be doing that job for very long.

I don't know what life Roger the cat is on, but I don't think it matters. He has bungled every attempt at protecting the integrity of the game and the league, and he isn't getting better at it...he's getting WORSE. He's on a power trip and he just can't help himself. It's only a matter of time...

Whenever that time comes, I hope it's a long, drawn-out, humiliating spectacle. I want his reputation to suffer irreparably, in commensurate fashion as those he unjustly impugned. I want his legacy to be "Roger Goodell, the inept commissioner". You wanted to be known for a lasting impact on the NFL Roger...you did it buddy! Congratulations!!!