Hot Takes Welcome (Post Packers Loss) (2 Viewers)

GM accountability is the overarching problem. These players didn’t build this roster. They didnt hire this coaching staff or the last one. They didn’t trade away picks. Or put us 80-100 million over the cap to lose double digit games 2 out of 3 years. Or make the bad draft picks. This begins and ends at this point with Loomis. Thank him for the best 15 years in Saints history, and move him out of operations, or out the building altogether. We haven’t been to the playoffs in 4 years, and we are at the lowest point since the Katrina year.

We changed the QB in year 1, and we didnt get better.
We changed a lot of the coaching staff in year 2, and we didnt get better.
We changed the OC in year 3, and we didnt get better.
We changed the head coach midway through year 3, and we didnt get better. (Rizzi hasn’t beat anyone Allen wouldn’t have, and beat 3 doormats)

So QB - assistant coach overhaul - OC - HC…………GM is next.
Well baring anything out of left field, Loomis isn't going away. So, all we as fans can hope for is change at the talent level (players & coaches). If you want franchise level movement then we need a seismic level change, and I don't see Mrs. Benson ejecting Loomis unless the business goes bottoms up. I could easily see Loomis outlasting Mrs. B. So, in my opinion for Loomis to go you are talking ownership change. Which, unfortunately might not be all that far off. Certainly, less than a decade.
On the positive side, the NFC South is still dog water. The division is lacking any real QB talent so a better defense and running game could keep you relevant until you find a starting QB...
 
Exactly how I felt likely, hopeless….I told my son and his friends it was like being transported back to 1974……

1967 - 1986 would be more correct... This is what I lived though as a young Saints fan...

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8-8 was like a Super Bowl year for us!

1980 had to be the worst season ever for most fans. We went 8-8 for the first time ever in 79 & we were picked by a lot of people to win our first division, winning season, make the playoffs in 80.
People ended the year by wearing bags on their heads & the FO cleaned house because of a supposable drug problem on the team.

Bad...Bad...& Worse!
 
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1967 - 1986 would be more correct... This is what I lived though as a young Saints fan...

1735228749451.png
8-8 was like a Super Bowl year for us!

1980 had to be the worst season ever for most fans. We went 8-8 for the first time ever in 79 & we were picked by a lot of people to win our first division, winning season, make the playoffs in 80.
People ended the year by wearing bags on their heads & the FO cleaned house because of a supposable drug problem on the team.

Bad...Bad...& Worse!

Yup, the 5-9 record recently reminded me of my Dad saying that this is about the best we can expect with Mecom as owner…..absolutely true, for the initial 11 years…..
 
1967 - 1986 would be more correct... This is what I lived though as a young Saints fan...

1735228749451.png
8-8 was like a Super Bowl year for us!

1980 had to be the worst season ever for most fans. We went 8-8 for the first time ever in 79 & we were picked by a lot of people to win our first division, winning season, make the playoffs in 80.
People ended the year by wearing bags on their heads & the FO cleaned house because of a supposable drug problem on the team.

Bad...Bad...& Worse!
Exactly.

Some are just too young to remember and others just forgot what it was like
 
My hot take is as follows:

When fully healthy this team is an 8 to 11 win team if coached correctly.

That's a lot of if's.

We need quality depth at key positions. Back in the day if Drew went down for a game or two, Teddy two-gloves or Jameis could come in and win a game if need be. We don't have that here. If Kamara were out, Latavius Murray or similar could do the job for a game or two. Same with the OL pieces or wide receivers. The many times when Michael Thomas was out we had Ted Ginn and others to contribute.

Now if we have one wrong player out it seems to just muck up the whole thing because our quality of depth is C R A P.
 
1967 - 1986 would be more correct... This is what I lived though as a young Saints fan...

1735228749451.png
8-8 was like a Super Bowl year for us!

1980 had to be the worst season ever for most fans. We went 8-8 for the first time ever in 79 & we were picked by a lot of people to win our first division, winning season, make the playoffs in 80.
People ended the year by wearing bags on their heads & the FO cleaned house because of a supposable drug problem on the team.

Bad...Bad...& Worse!
I was but five years old in 1980 but everything I've read and kinda-sorta remember is it was all off-the-field with the issues. Lots of nose candy being snorted back then and then drafting a punter/kicker in the first round, among so many other needs. 1978 and '79, and then '83 as well, were so darned close to producing the first winning season. Several of the wins those three years are searchable on YT, too. It was a different rhythm to the game back then, but no less enjoyable.

Links on YT tend to show up on here as being "zapped" for copyright, but here's a few highlights to search amid all the heartbreaking losses in those years:

--1978 vs. the Rams, on the road; it was the Rams first loss of the season and started what passed in those days as a "streak" for us. Reverse the two Hail Mary losses to the Failclowns and that's a playoff berth, folks!

--1979 vs. either the Redskins or the 49ers. The defense, often remembered as the team's albatross while the 78-79 offense was pretty good, actually showed up that day in Washington. Then a few weeks later, a home win over the 49ers and their rookie head coach Bill Walsh got us to 6-5 in mid-November, which was cause for celebration back then.

--1983 vs. either the Bears or Dolphins. Two thrilling wins at home, one in overtime over a Bears team that would win the Super Bowl in the Superdome just two years later, and the other a defensive gem of a game against a promising rookie QB named Dan Marino.

I highly recommend any of them to any die-hard fan, young or old.
 
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