Hot Takes Welcome (Post Tampa Bay Loss) (1 Viewer)

[St. Widge]

My understanding is they only had one real day of live practice together this week and no others since training camp. Obviously, Olave was heavily featured in that one practice as well, so not many reps. Rattler has the arm to get to Shaheed at full speed but doesn't trust where that speed is and didn't want to over throw him.

Right. And Shaheed was hurt for most of training camp and Rattler didn't get to play with him in the preseason games so he's had almost no time to get used to Shaheed since he was drafted. The only good news is that he seems to have some chemistry with Means given that he likely gets more reps with him doing side work during the season and played in games with him in preseason.

 

[OldTimeGamer1966]

Back to over in October, if we lose Thursday (which is quite possible) pack it up the thing will fall apart. Kamara looked like he didn't even want to play in the second half.

 

[OldTimeGamer1966]

I’m actually excited. Think we may get a top 5 pick which I hope we hit on, and I like what the rookie showed. I have a little hope for the future. Really do.

Problem is by the time they get it right we will all be dead and gone

 

[Elvis]

Back to over in October, if we lose Thursday (which is quite possible) pack it up the thing will fall apart. Kamara looked like he didn't even want to play in the second half.

In Kamaras defense, he's got both hand and rib injuries. Why would he be sacrificing his own health while the defense let the Bucs go wild on the other side.

 

[Jesse Custer]

I think Kubiak's only real problem is he's just out of ammo in terms of what he has to work with. He can only roll out a QB so many times before a team starts playing for it and his QB gets killed. One thing you'll see Tampa do in the second half is start playing the edges wider making it harder to roll out. With a third/fourth string interior offensive line, a rookie LT, a below average but improving RT, no Hill, no Olave, Kamara playing through injury, AND a backup rookie QB making his first career start... we need to be realistic when talking about the offense and Kubiak right now. Just look at Sean Payton without Drew Brees in 2021.

27 points should be more than enough to win a football game with an elite defensive team...

Oh, I'm not arguing that 27 points should be good enough for a win. I'm also not saying it should be designed rollouts all the time. I honestly felt like Kubiak was able to use more of his playbook with Rattler than with Carr because of the rollouts. I just would've liked to see more reaction to the blitz schemes. If Taysom played yesterday, I think the game goes a different way. Dude is the best hot read option in the NFL, IMO.

 

[Elvis]

Oh, I'm not arguing that 27 points should be good enough for a win. I'm also not saying it should be designed rollouts all the time. I honestly felt like Kubiak was able to use more of his playbook with Rattler than with Carr because of the rollouts. I just would've liked to see more reaction to the blitz schemes. If Taysom played yesterday, I think the game goes a different way. Dude is the best hot read option in the NFL, IMO.

I think closing off those rollouts was a Todd Bowles adjustment during the game. Early on Rattler had room to move out of the pocket, but they started containing him more in the second half.

 

[BreesusSaves]

Oh, I'm not arguing that 27 points should be good enough for a win. I'm also not saying it should be designed rollouts all the time. I honestly felt like Kubiak was able to use more of his playbook with Rattler than with Carr because of the rollouts. I just would've liked to see more reaction to the blitz schemes. If Taysom played yesterday, I think the game goes a different way. Dude is the best hot read option in the NFL, IMO.

Unfortunately I don't think Kubiak really had anything he could use for their blitzes. They started playing the edges wider with LBs and DBs looking for the designed rollout so now the Saints have to go more to the pocket, and we all know the status of the Saints interior OL. Add in combo coverages and well designed blitzes coming at a rookie QB, the Saints OL telegraphing screens too easily, the blitz beaters Kubiak tried didn't work. Once Tampa realized they could cheat against the rollouts and not get hurt up the middle, it was curtains.

 

[Jesse Custer]

Unfortunately I don't think Kubiak really had anything he could use for their blitzes. They started playing the edges wider with LBs and DBs looking for the designed rollout so now the Saints have to go more to the pocket, and we all know the status of the Saints interior OL. Add in combo coverages and well designed blitzes coming at a rookie QB, the Saints OL telegraphing screens too easily, the blitz beaters Kubiak tried didn't work. Once Tampa realized they could cheat against the rollouts and not get hurt up the middle, it was curtains.

Great analysis.

 

[sfidc3]

Oh, I'm not arguing that 27 points should be good enough for a win. I'm also not saying it should be designed rollouts all the time. I honestly felt like Kubiak was able to use more of his playbook with Rattler than with Carr because of the rollouts. I just would've liked to see more reaction to the blitz schemes. If Taysom played yesterday, I think the game goes a different way. Dude is the best hot read option in the NFL, IMO.

Problem is, once again, TH is 34 years old, that is ancient for a ball carrier, I don’t think it’s wise to have a big part of the game plan focused on a guy that is likely to miss more games in the future due to injury, in fact it’s insanity…..Also TH doesn’t play defense….

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

My hot take: At least they managed to have matching black jerseys for this game!