In defense of Allen (gulp) (1 Viewer)

[Chinese bandits]

I hate the Rams and McVay with a fiery passion but above is absolutely not true….everything is not the same….Whitworth (the dbaggy LT) who was probably their best olineman retired and they have had a slew of injuries on the oline….they appear to still be playing hard….bad years after SBs are not uncommon…..

Whitworth was not as good as Armstead, who we lost this year, We have been competitive in every game, fighting until the end. And bad years for first year head coaches with injuries to 3 olineman, 2 db, 2 dl, WRs, RBs is not uncommon either. If we do not have the injuries, we would have 1-2 losses at most.
I am not as high on DA as I was in the beginning so this reply does not come without hesitation. This year is a loss, Probably next year is lost also due to cap issues and having sold out with Drew still under center. We will not be super competitive until we get out of this mess.

 

[dvdman]

I’ll make it simple, “It’ll all starts and ends with the HC”. He is ultimately responsible for the entire operations.

 

[Twags14]

SP had 7-9 seasons with one of the greatest QBs off all time.

Let’s give DA a bit of slack here..

OP is right. We don’t have a QB, missing star players..

This is not the same. The Saints were still incredibly fun to watch despite losing records those years. What you're seeing now is a guy who was not the right fit for a HC position. I wish him well.

 

[sfidc3]

Whitworth was not as good as Armstead, who we lost this year, We have been competitive in every game, fighting until the end. And bad years for first year head coaches with injuries to 3 olineman, 2 db, 2 dl, WRs, RBs is not uncommon either. If we do not have the injuries, we would have 1-2 losses at most.
I am not as high on DA as I was in the beginning so this reply does not come without hesitation. This year is a loss, Probably next year is lost also due to cap issues and having sold out with Drew still under center. We will not be super competitive until we get out of this mess.

I agree Armstead is the better player (he was one of my all time favorite Saints) when available….Whitworth was more durable and available….

If you think we have been competitive in every game, fighting until the end then you are either blind or a relative of Dennis Allen…..

 

[boutte]

Just checking in a month later at 3-7. You still holding out hope, or no?

Tired old trope, seems like it is just a regular trope now.

At this point it looks pretty hopeless. I was hoping we'd see gradual improvements and maybe even begin to look like a well led team trending up.
It just keeps getting worse. Especially the Defense.

I still think firing Allen before the end of the season would just make things worse.
Once the season is over I'm hoping they take another look at Brian Flores.

 

[DaveXA]

At this point it looks pretty hopeless. I was hoping we'd see gradual improvements and maybe even begin to look like a well led team trending up.
It just keeps getting worse. Especially the Defense.

I still think firing Allen before the end of the season would just make things worse.
Once the season is over I'm hoping they take another look at Brian Flores.

Yeah, I think if Gayle and Loomis decide cutting bait after 1 season is the way to go, then I'm all for it. I just hope they're working on a plan now for what happens after the season.

 

[tjharris]

Turnovers, penalties and missed tackles all happen because of poor coaching.
We are losing the games during the week not on Sundays.
Coaching, across the board, is as bad as it's been since Dikta.

 

[jasonsw]

McVay won a Superbowl last year, all DA is lose. Are you serious?

As much as I hate McVay I sure wished he was wearing the black and gold on Sundays coming up with Brilliant offensive schemes, that lead to amazing plays

 

[DaveXA]

Turnovers, penalties and missed tackles all happen because of poor coaching.
We are losing the games during the week not on Sundays.
Coaching, across the board, is as bad as it's been since Dikta.

I lived through Dikta...just no. I'm not a fan of DA, but he's no Dikta.

 

[tjharris]

I lived through Dikta...just no. I'm not a fan of DA, but he's no Dikta.

No not as bad as Dikta but worse than Haslett and Payton

 

[DaveXA]

No not as bad as Dikta but worse than Haslett and Payton

Yeah, agree. I'd put him (DA) in bottom 3 at this point. If he manages a miraculous turnaround, that could change, but I'd be shocked if that happens.

 

[boutte]

Yeah, agree. I'd put him (DA) in bottom 3 at this point. If he manages a miraculous turnaround, that could change, but I'd be shocked if that happens.

Should have been around for J.D. Roberts and John North. Or even Hank Straam.

 

[COACHTDL]

I lived through Dikta...just no. I'm not a fan of DA, but he's no Dikta.

DA is not Ditka although results are the same. But at least Ditka had some fire. DA is now 11 - 35 as a head coach. 24% winning rate. I would really like to hear Alvin and Cam unfiltered, giving a true sense of the players thoughts about coaching and atmosphere around the building.

 

[DaveXA]

Should have been around for J.D. Roberts and John North. Or even Hank Straam.

Sure, but a lot of that was organizational. The GM and front office were objectively terrible back then. Jim Finks was the point where competency became a hallmark of the front office and coaching and players were at least attempts at being top shelf.