Israel (now broader Mid East discussion) (10 Viewers)

[DaveXA]

I bet you money we will now...

Not specifically because of that though.

 

[Maxp]

Not specifically because of that though.

I wouldn't put it passed every single party involved to kill those American mercenaries, Israel included.

 

[DaveXA]

I wouldn't put it passed every single party involved to kill those American mercenaries, Israel included.

I wouldn't either. But we're not gonna put boots on the ground because of it.

That said, I wouldn't put anything past the guy in office, but I'd say highly unlikely.

 

[Heathen Saint]

Bigotry, lol I could care less about that, or tgere religion. When you do the things they've done your an animal.

Stop grasping!

The irony is folks who talk like this are the first to wail about being discriminated against when tables are turned.

The problem with your rhetoric is that it’s shallow and cheap.

You call the Palestinian people animals. Clearly they didn’t do anything to Israelis, Hamas did.

But will you follow or break your own line of logic when I ask if you think the Israeli religious fanatics in the IDF are also animals for the horrible things they’ve done to children?

I challenge you to look at literally any picture of what they’ve done to baby and then try to tell me it’s really the Palestinians who are the real animals.

You can’t.

 

[Heathen Saint]

No they aren't... and that is the exact language and rhetoric that Hamas uses to justify their actions against Israel.
You don't get to slaughter children and then say you're the good guys. That should be standard. And yes that includes Hamas.

You do know we don't have to pick a side -- these are two foreign entities with non-aligned goals and interests from the United States. We are allowed to have a standard that killing non-combatants is wrong. Military occupation needs to be temporary. Terrorism is always bad. We can say that everyone in that region has a right to live free from terror and occupation with a government they believe represents them. We can hold all those standards and refuse to support anyone who isn't actively working towards those goals.

I’m for most of this. But the need to “both sides” things into oblivion feels cheap. Not trying to call you out in particular here, more just the whole narrative. It doesn’t feel right to say both sides suck when one side has killed potentially hundreds of thousands and the other - 1,200. Not that those lives matter any less - but scale matters in context.

There is no “both sides“ when there are astronomical differences between the sides — number of those slaughtered, the living conditions / economic prospects / rights of Palestinians vs Israelis…there is no comparison.

I feel so many act like regional conflicts, some with hundreds or thousands of years of complex history, are akin to board games where one side does x so the other does y and there exists no space in between to judge right and wrong.

 

[Heathen Saint]

Not sure how many times I’ve posted children being shot by the IDF, but here’s another in the long list..

Shame it’ll fall on deaf ears because it isn’t the “right” kind of child. Or someone will attempt to grab at straws and insist he was older.

Same old song and dance, but at least the evidence is there for one to look at or ignore either way.

 

[Det. Brees]

The irony is folks who talk like this are the first to wail about being discriminated against when tables are turned.

The problem with your rhetoric is that it’s shallow and cheap.

You call the Palestinian people animals. Clearly they didn’t do anything to Israelis, Hamas did.

But will you follow or break your own line of logic when I ask if you think the Israeli religious fanatics in the IDF are also animals for the horrible things they’ve done to children?

I challenge you to look at literally any picture of what they’ve done to baby and then try to tell me it’s really the Palestinians who are the real animals.

You can’t.

You must have confused me with someone else. nowhere have I complained about being discriminated against. I have explained a few times and once just recently why I give fault to Palestine.

If the little guy "Israel" stands up to the bully , Palestine being one of them in this scenario, don't complain when you get your nose bloodied. .