Jackson, Ms is jacked up (Merged) (10 Viewers)

I often wonder why so many cities spread all across the world why the south has so many of the most dangerous cities on earth.
Maybe it's because the NRA has bribed enough lawmakers, inspired enough rednecks, and triggered enough of those who think their manhood can be measured by the length of their gun and the girth of their bullets, into thinking that inner-city thugs count as a "well regulated militia" as that term was contemplated by the original drafters of the Second Amendment, and that simple limited restrictions and background checks count as "infringement" foreshadowing a government confiscation of all guns.
 

  1. St. Louis, MO (2,082)
  2. Detroit, MI (2,057)
  3. Baltimore, MD (2,027)
  4. Memphis, TN (2,003)
  5. Little Rock, AR (1,634)
  6. Milwaukee, WI (1,597)
  7. Rockford, IL (1,588)
  8. Cleveland, OH (1,557)
  9. Stockton, CA (1,415)
  10. Albuquerque, NM (1,369)
  11. Springfield, MO (1,339)
  12. Indianapolis, IN (1,334)
  13. Oakland, CA (1,299)
  14. San Bernardino, CA (1,291)
  15. Anchorage, AK (1,203)
  16. Nashville, TN (1,138)
  17. Lansing, MI (1,136)
  18. New Orleans, LA (1,121)
  19. Minneapolis, MN (1,101)
  20. Chicago, IL (1,099)
 

  1. St. Louis, MO (2,082)
  2. Detroit, MI (2,057)
  3. Baltimore, MD (2,027)
  4. Memphis, TN (2,003)
  5. Little Rock, AR (1,634)
  6. Milwaukee, WI (1,597)
  7. Rockford, IL (1,588)
  8. Cleveland, OH (1,557)
  9. Stockton, CA (1,415)
  10. Albuquerque, NM (1,369)
  11. Springfield, MO (1,339)
  12. Indianapolis, IN (1,334)
  13. Oakland, CA (1,299)
  14. San Bernardino, CA (1,291)
  15. Anchorage, AK (1,203)
  16. Nashville, TN (1,138)
  17. Lansing, MI (1,136)
  18. New Orleans, LA (1,121)
  19. Minneapolis, MN (1,101)
  20. Chicago, IL (1,099)

I wonder how many of those have potable water?
 
The money you spend to buy shares in microsoft creates no jobs.
Well, sort of. It does indirectly create jobs for financial advisors who buy/sell said shares for their clients. I was one for a couple of years, and I have family members with careers in the field.

I mostly agree with the rest though.
 

  1. St. Louis, MO (2,082)
  2. Detroit, MI (2,057)
  3. Baltimore, MD (2,027)
  4. Memphis, TN (2,003)
  5. Little Rock, AR (1,634)
  6. Milwaukee, WI (1,597)
  7. Rockford, IL (1,588)
  8. Cleveland, OH (1,557)
  9. Stockton, CA (1,415)
  10. Albuquerque, NM (1,369)
  11. Springfield, MO (1,339)
  12. Indianapolis, IN (1,334)
  13. Oakland, CA (1,299)
  14. San Bernardino, CA (1,291)
  15. Anchorage, AK (1,203)
  16. Nashville, TN (1,138)
  17. Lansing, MI (1,136)
  18. New Orleans, LA (1,121)
  19. Minneapolis, MN (1,101)
  20. Chicago, IL (1,099)
That list is 5 years old. Jackson has since climbed to #1.

Here is an updated list.

It's actually come down a bit. The first half of 2021 we were running 121 homicides per 100k which is almost double the #2 city.

When it just comes to violent crime, Jackson doesn't rank nearly as high. Based on studies, the huge disparity between murder and other violent crimes is more than likely the result of those crimes just not being reported anymore because the community has lost faith in law and order.
 
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The majority of huge income in this country is capital gains based on investment in stocks and real estate and neither of those investments result directly in jobs.

YOu are conflating investment and risk in the market with someone who starts a business that employs people.

Tax breaks and preferential treatment for investments in stocks is like tax breaks for gambling. The money you spend to buy shares in microsoft creates no jobs. Moreover, Bill Gates hasn't risked anything in decades. His start up became the largest company in the world decades ago yet he's still rewarded with lower tax rates than I pay.

The whole of this argument from your side is fraught with contradictions only those who make 100m or more per year can support unless they've been

The majority of huge income in this country is capital gains based on investment in stocks and real estate and neither of those investments result directly in jobs.

YOu are conflating investment and risk in the market with someone who starts a business that employs people.

Tax breaks and preferential treatment for investments in stocks is like tax breaks for gambling. The money you spend to buy shares in microsoft creates no jobs. Moreover, Bill Gates hasn't risked anything in decades. His start up became the largest company in the world decades ago yet he's still rewarded with lower tax rates than I pay.

The whole of this argument from your side is fraught with contradictions only those who make 100m or more per year can support unless they've been deceived.
So real estate creates no jobs? And all of those malls and buildings and houses just magically appear overnight?

And corporations that live and die by their stock price have no employees? They use what, trained squirrels?
 
That list is 5 years old. Jackson has since climbed to #1.

Here is an updated list.

It's actually come down a bit. The first half of 2021 we were running 121 homicides per 100k which is almost double the #2 city.

His list was violent crimes and yours is murders - so the numbers are different anyway.
 
So real estate creates no jobs? And all of those malls and buildings and houses just magically appear overnight?

And corporations that live and die by their stock price have no employees? They use what, trained squirrels?

Stop being obtuse. It's unbecoming.

Malls don't even exist anymore and companies that exist based on stock price are the problem not the solution. Gambling on the increase in stock value is a secondary market and not what should be taxed preferentially because of the risk and reward of innovation and job creation.

Even the new start up makes more money for IPO brokers than anyone else.

Still, it is my belief that income of any sort is equal and should be taxed the same. And, I make plenty. It's not fair for me to pay more in taxes with my hundreds of direct and indirect employees than what Gates pays on his.

You want fair? Tax all income the same within a bracketed tax system like we have. Eliminate deductinos and preferntial treatment for anything other than long term property gains and the world will be a better place.
 
Well, sort of. It does indirectly create jobs for financial advisors who buy/sell said shares for their clients. I was one for a couple of years, and I have family members with careers in the field.

I mostly agree with the rest though.

My broker handles somewhere north of 1 bn in assets. He makes probably 1.5% on transactions less his overhead and staff. He is a frictional cost of business and his 5 employees make less than my top 5.

I see no reason why that sort of job creation should save investors on their taxes.

Their reward is the potential return. His fees are the costs associated with investment.
 
Stop being obtuse. It's unbecoming.

Malls don't even exist anymore and companies that exist based on stock price are the problem not the solution. Gambling on the increase in stock value is a secondary market and not what should be taxed preferentially because of the risk and reward of innovation and job creation.

Even the new start up makes more money for IPO brokers than anyone else.

Still, it is my belief that income of any sort is equal and should be taxed the same. And, I make plenty. It's not fair for me to pay more in taxes with my hundreds of direct and indirect employees than what Gates pays on his.

You want fair? Tax all income the same within a bracketed tax system like we have. Eliminate deductinos and preferntial treatment for anything other than long term property gains and the world will be a better place.
Wait... malls don't exist anymore? Wow... where did I get my sweatpants yesterday?

How about houses and buildings? Do those exist anymore?

You claim corporations financed through stock are the problem, but you don't present an argument for your claim; you just call it gambling.

seems you really have it out for Bill Gates... so you have hundreds of direct and indirect enployees... do you have an idea of how many millions of direct and indirect jobs Microsot and the Windows OS have created the last 40 years? And continues to create? And will create in the foreseeable future? Worldwide?

And how many billions of dollars has your charity foundation spent the last decade?

I am a Unix guy, but I have to give Gates his due...

Last thing, speaking of stopping, it is you that really needs to stop it with the condescension. It doesn't help any conversation, and it had the opposite effect of what you think. If you have an argument for or against, present it, but calling people obtuse or saying they are moaning and crying is not going to strengthen your position, on the contrary...
 
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Wisconsin is discussing moving to a flat tax. Thoughts?
 
My broker handles somewhere north of 1 bn in assets. He makes probably 1.5% on transactions less his overhead and staff. He is a frictional cost of business and his 5 employees make less than my top 5.

I see no reason why that sort of job creation should save investors on their taxes.

Their reward is the potential return. His fees are the costs associated with investment.
You own stock? So you are part of the problem then?
 

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