Jeff Duncan: Saints problems go beyond the coach or QB [mod edit] (1 Viewer)

[cwesleyc]

I haven't read the article, but the two most disappointing things about the team are the cap management dictating that we can't reset and the egotistical insistence on trading up in the draft. The reality is no matter how good the evaluation is, it's a crapshoot and we should be making as many selections as possible. Both of these strategies have hammered the team's depth.

 

[WilliamBrees]

Thought it was insightful and the logic is credible, though it’s important to point out some of the issues pre-dated Allen.

It’s alarming that he wrote about the same issues in January

If you’re a pc, click the link and then stop the page from loading b4 the paywall notification clicks in, it’ll stop it from loading fully and you can read.

Doesn’t work on cell phone

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[Hubig]

John Sigler, Matt Mascona, Eric Asher, they have been at the forefront of this for a long while now. Eric Asher has been roasting Loomis for over a decade, lol.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

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touche

 

[SweetT]

That was not Loomis that was all Payton's doing

Fair enough

 

[SAINTSFAN]

Does anyone know why Jeff Duncan is going after Saints leadership? I just find it very interesting that this dude is so negative against the Saints when we're seen more winning from this franchise since before Mickey Loomis. I think Jeff Duncan and Sean Payton are friends. Duncan is really going after Loomis. https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/...cle_5a945d6a-9897-11ef-aad1-4792d2947173.html

It's behind a paywall but the comments on twitter tell it all.

And you don't think leadership of this organization should be questioned?

 

[CRESS_137]

"At times, the parking became so limited that some players were parking in the front lot’s four handicapped spots."

That's honestly pretty damn crummy. Shows a lot of entitlement and lack of character to me. No wonder they blow it in crunch time.

 

[meily]

I haven't read the article, but the two most disappointing things about the team are the cap management dictating that we can't reset and the egotistical insistence on trading up in the draft. The reality is no matter how good the evaluation is, it's a crapshoot and we should be making as many selections as possible. Both of these strategies have hammered the team's depth.

In hindsight you are correct, but in the "all in for Drew Brees" days these were celebrated as aggressive and "anything to maximize Drews remaining years" couple that with a GREAT 2017 draft were we really had no real needs going forward until most recently, it was a recipe for disaster in hindsight now that we know how our future turned out

 

[longtime lurker]

Smoke all over the place and no savior in sight.

 

[Analyze This]

Benching players for transgressions would be a start.

Paulson Adebo deserved to get benched for some snaps during his rash of penalties.

Alontae Taylor deserved to be benched for his litany of missed tackles and shoulder hits leading to longer gains.

Kendre should be IR’d for the year for not being a professional two years running.

Lots of opportunities for discipline that have been overlooked. The parking lot stuff just adds to it.

Until people start getting reprimanded (starts w/ Loomis) these things will continue.

Loomis and DA are pushing “look beyond results”. Seems difficult to hold players accountable in this type of culture.

DA, why are not wrapping up? Taylor, look beyond the result. Loomis, that sounds right. Gayle, what’s going on?

 

[Broad St. Saint]

"At times, the parking became so limited that some players were parking in the front lot’s four handicapped spots."

That's honestly pretty damn crummy. Shows a lot of entitlement and lack of character to me. No wonder they blow it in crunch time.

I mean, are we sure that there aren’t a bunch of Saints players who now have handicapped placards? Some of the injuries have been bad.

 

[CRESS_137]

I mean, are we sure that there aren’t a bunch of Saints players who now have handicapped placards? Some of the injuries have been bad.

Legitimate point, but I would expect that to be considered kosher behavior from the FO point of view. Not sure why they would need to send out a memorandum about that.

 

[HoustonGold]

Bump Jeff Duncan double downed and he is not wrong.

Jeff Duncan: After another loss, it's confession time for the Saints: They don't need a tweak, they need an overhaul.

The New Orleans Saints are more than a head coaching change away from getting things right, columnist Jeff Duncan opines in his latest column for the Times-Picayune.

www.nola.com

The comeback was admirable, considering the circumstances by which it occurred. The Saints finished the game with a rookie quarterback at the helm and the team’s top four offensive playmakers on the sideline because of injuries.
It would have been easy — almost understandable — if the Saints had elected to quit after they fell behind 17-0. Instead, they battled back, and as Spencer Rattler said, “were an inch away” from pulling off the improbable upset.
It was a gritty, plucky effort the Saints should be proud of.
The team’s brain trust, though, should ignore it.
That sentiment might seem harsh, but the worst thing Saints officials can do right now is fall into the trap of complacency or allow themselves to be fooled into thinking this team is close.
Dare I say, they need to look beyond the results. The wins and losses are irrelevant right now. The big picture is what’s important.
The loss to the Commanders was the Saints’ ninth of the season. That ensures a second losing season in three years and an almost-certain fourth straight year of missing the playoffs.
On the field, the Saints are getting worse. And off the field, the future looks equally grim.
The club is broken.

Let this sink in

But if we’ve learned anything over the years about interim coaches, it’s that the adrenaline shot rarely lasts. Eventually the high wears off and the systematic problems that led to the coaching change reappear.
More often than not, clubs who promote interim coaches find themselves in the same place they were to start with.
For every Jason Garrett success story, there are far more Tom Cable, Romeo Crennel and Mike Mularkey failures. It's no surprise that Antonio Pierce finds himself on the hot seat after one year in Las Vegas.

After the Commanders loss, they are 0-7 against teams currently with winning records this season and 4-18 against them the past three seasons.
That’s not close.
That’s not unlucky bounces or bad injury luck.
That’s bad football.
Sunday's setback followed an all-too-familiar script. The Saints fell behind early and were forced to play catchup for the rest of the game. As they did in so many of their games against quality opponents in recent years, they failed to lead for a single second.
The second-half rally speaks to the team’s competitiveness more than its competence.
The Saints simply aren’t good enough. And they haven’t been for some time.
The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem. For these Saints, it's time for confession. It’s not the defensive staff, which was overhauled in 2022. Or the offensive scheme, which was changed a year ago. It’s not the activation period before practices.
It’s everything — the approach, the vision, the process. An extreme makeover is needed.
It's not the easy thing to do. But it's the right thing.
Historically, New Orleans has resisted change.
We tend to vote corrupt and ineffective politicians to second terms in office. We protest the opening of progressive new businesses such as Whole Foods and Trader Joe’s for the sake of preservation. Meanwhile, one of our downtown skyscrapers has been so neglected over the years it is literally falling apart before our eyes.
No city abhors change and embraces the status quo like New Orleans.
But when it comes to the Saints, New Orleans is ready for change. In fact, fans are craving it.
If the Saints want to show they're listening and serious about turning things around, they'll make sweeping changes this offseason.
The status quo isn’t working on Airline Drive. It hasn’t for a while now.
Change is needed — from top to bottom, at every level.
The Saints don’t need a tweak. They need an overhaul.

 

[Jesse Custer]

I mean...Scooter ain't wrong in this case.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

Bump Jeff Duncan double downed and he is not wrong.

Jeff Duncan: After another loss, it's confession time for the Saints: They don't need a tweak, they need an overhaul.

The New Orleans Saints are more than a head coaching change away from getting things right, columnist Jeff Duncan opines in his latest column for the Times-Picayune.

www.nola.com

Let this sink in

Holy hell i agree with Duncan...all of it