Jeremy Shockey (2 Viewers)

[Infoman]

Did I miss the year that Jeremy Shockey started to suck? Last time I checked, he is one of the most productive TE's in the NFL over the past 5 years or so. I can understand not wanting to give up a lot for the guy, being that we have so many holes to fill on defense... but some of you act like he's terrible.

And if you just don't like him because of his perceived attitude... well... all I can say is... he just seems like a super competitive guy to me... and he may need to grow up some... but like most competitive guys... If you put him on a winning team with good character guys running the show... you won't hear a peep out of him.

Forgive me if I seem cynical here about "character".... I guess I've seen just about enough of these great character guys that can't catch a cold, cover their shadow, or tackle a tulip.

 

[Joodas Avila]

He's good, and he knows it. He'll be great, when he's in the mood. Or not injured.

I dont know, he seems like he'd be more of a problem, than anything else. BUT HE IS A GREAT TE.

 

[geauxboy]

If he keeps up with Cam Cleeland with the injuries, then this is a wasted aquisition IMO.

I don't think that he can't mature when put in the right situation, but I just don't want to see the animosity that he can wage while we (and the team) bide their time trying to whip him into shape.

IMO, I don't think he's worth the time and effort for what doesn't equate as a significant increase in TDs.

 

['79 Saints]

Did I miss the year that Jeremy Shockey started to suck? Last time I checked, he is one of the most productive TE's in the NFL over the past 5 years or so. I can understand not wanting to give up a lot for the guy, being that we have so many holes to fill on defense... but some of you act like he's terrible.

And if you just don't like him because of his perceived attitude... well... all I can say is... he just seems like a super competitive guy to me... and he may need to grow up some... but like most competitive guys... If you put him on a winning team with good character guys running the show... you won't hear a peep out of him.

Forgive me if I seem cynical here about "character".... I guess I've seen just about enough of these great character guys that can't catch a cold, cover their shadow, or tackle a tulip.

He's not terrible... he's an injury-riddled, prima donna. I can think of several tight ends I'd give up a high draft pick and take over Shockey -Dallas Clark, Jason Witten, Antoino Gates... problem is, teams aren't willing to ship off those kind of guys, because they are competitive, productive and good people to have around.

 

[brianw37]

He's not terrible... he's an injury-riddled, prima donna. I can think of several tight ends I'd give up a high draft pick and take over Shockey -Dallas Clark, Jason Witten, Antoino Gates... problem is, teams aren't willing to ship off those kind of guys, because they are competitive, productive and good people to have around.

 

[Infoman]

He's not terrible... he's an injury-riddled, prima donna. I can think of several tight ends I'd give up a high draft pick and take over Shockey -Dallas Clark, Jason Witten, Antoino Gates... problem is, teams aren't willing to ship off those kind of guys, because they are competitive, productive and good people to have around.

I wouldn't call him "injury-riddled"... he had a knee injury in 2003 (still made the pro-bowl that year BTW)... and broke his leg very late in the season this year. Not exactly injuries that'd I consider to be chronic problems at this point (or yet). He made the Pro Bowl in 3 of his 1st 4 seasons in the league. He is (physically) as good a player as any that you listed. The catch is, the guys you listed (as you said) don't just become available. There aren't that many players (much less TEs) in the NFL that possess great talent and are exceptional character guys to boot. On top of that... I have seen some of these so called "problem players" move to winning teams with good leaders... and they all of a sudden become quite as a mouse and everything is beautiful.

Just saying...

 

['79 Saints]

He's had those little nagging injuries too, but I guess my point is that if the Giants are looking to unload him it's because of his prima donna attitude.

Yes, some problem players have become great team guys with a change of scenery, but I don't feel Shockey would be one of them -especially coming to a team like New Orleans.

That's not to say we shoudln't look at upgrading our TE position, but one that might be available and could be just as productive is Alge Crumpler from Atlanta. Rumors are he could be released/traded, so I'd take a much longer look at him as opposed to Shockey.

 

[Necrocajun]

Crumpler or Shockey would be great to have at TE. I wouldn't give up more than next year's 3rd for Shockey though.

 

[scottius aurelius]

Anybody remember Randy Moss? He seems to be working out fine for the Pats. It's not like we're talking about Jerramy Stevens.

 

[The SAINTaholic]

why not, we hardly ever pick up anyone decent enough even in the 1st round; why not finally bring in some attitude and prooven ability rather than just another "hopefull"...... This is just my opinion..

 

[Irish Saint]

I think we should pass here if it comes our way. Our only concentration should be on defense in the off season. We are soooooo porous its not even funny. It takes away all the sting our offense can muster in games & it was heartbreaking to see so many big plays given up. I think Shockeys a great player but i think we need to shore up instead of shout off right now.
That said id love to see him mouth off at Brees & see what he gets back!!!!!!!!

 

[geauxboy]

Anybody remember Randy Moss? He seems to be working out fine for the Pats. It's not like we're talking about Jerramy Stevens.

So your point is that one guy can change, but not the other? So where does that leave Shockey?

I'm not sure our offense needs someone to light a fire. The defense sure can use a few though.

 

[bergeaux]

Shockey is a good player, but we don't need him THAT bad.

 

[cruize]

Just draft the TE Davis from USC in the second. Let the injury-prone, non-blocking, ego-maniac stay in New York.

 

[The SAINTaholic]

I've changed my mind..... the last four replies make a whole lot of sense... Yeah, I think it would "complement" our O to have someone with an attitude to some degree; but after reading the last few comments, it does make more sense to focus primarily on the D (IMHO)...