Unverified Jets reporter says Aaron Glenn allegedly said the Jets are his first choice [Underhill: Thats a false characterization of Glenn] (8 Viewers)

[NatureBoy]

The Saints do not have a worse front office or owner. And the Jets also have coach killer, Aaron Rodgers. And, some of us like living in New Orleans. And that NY media eats coaches alive.

I highly doubt that Aaron will be brought back.

 

[j4m2b]

Young defense. Makes sense

 

[Pocket Hercules]

Good stuff, was considering Provo, Ogden, cedar city and SLC, any thoughts or suggestions?

I live in Moab, which is much different than some other parts of the state, but I travel all over the place for football and wrestling most weeks/weekends throughout the year. Here's how I would rank the cities you mentioned:

1) Cedar City - I think the Cedar City/St. George area is the best part of the state. It's stunning, clean, lots of amenities, but doesn't feel like a "big city". Short two-hour trip to Vegas if you want to get away and experience something different. SLC is only three hours via I-15.
2) Provo - its a beautiful college town that feels like southside SLC. Good restaurants, retail, coffee, ect. A little more dense than Cedar City, but still feels like a town more than a big city.
3) SLC - it's amazing how SLC has exploded over the last decade. Lots of big-time sporting events, conventions, ect. New NHL team. Great schools - Corner Canyon in Draper is incredible. Lots of money, expensive houses. Starting to suffer a little bit from "big city" symptoms such as traffic and smog issues, the latter of which is heartbreaking when you can't see the mountains on certain days.
4) Ogden - seems like a nice enough bedroom community, but it feels a little cut off from the rest of the state. You have to drive through SLC traffic to get anywhere else, and it's pretty much farmland any further north in Utah and Idaho.

 

[44slayer]

There are many worse options than Joe Brady. He's a risk and could flame out, but he could also be great.

This is where Im at with the HC job. McCarthy is a known commodity, Im not fully opposed to him, but Id rather catch a guy who hasnt made his name yet, with ideas and a fresh approach. Like Brady.

Sure the risk is there. But no one knew how Sean Payton would wind up. He had issues with Knute Rockne Fassel in NY, even got demoted. We took a chance on Payton and that worked out.

Id just rather take that risk and have a guy with the energy to go 8, 10 years and build a new era. Give Brady time to get the roster straightened out and see what happens.

 

[BreesusSaves]

The most attractive thing about the Jets for Glenn would be their defense. It is already built and he would only have to focus on dealing with Aaron "Head Coach Destroyer" Rodgers and rebuilding the offense.

 

[Moon]

Since 2001, the Jets have had 6 head coaches--none have left with a winning record. Whoever ends up there, hope they have fun

 

[NatureBoy]

It's incredible that the only owner in the league more psychotic than Jim Irsay continues to dupe people into working for him.

Yes, the Jets are in better shape from a roster and salary cap perspective. No, the Jets do not have a better FO than the Saints do. They don't even have a GM in place. Finally, I wouldn't live in or near New York for free. The mere thought makes me nauseous.

That said, the Jets are the one organization that Glenn has deeper ties to than the Saints. I can absolutely believe this story is true, and mentioned it in the McCarthy thread. If you get in front of McCarthy and he's still got the juice to endure a soft rebuild, you don't let him leave the building without a signed contract. Glenn is far from a sure thing to choose the Saints. The rest of the candidates we're involved with are more likely to bust than to succeed. McCarthy is the guy we need at this juncture.

I think you are spot on for most of this. While at this moment we could say we have a better front office than the Jets, it's kind of like saying we're both terminal but we have a little longer to live (than the Jets). Neither are good situations.

I think we (fans) spend too much time on location. Having two (or more) homes is nothing to these folks. You can hate where your primary residence is, but travel often to other homes and places (during the off season).

I was listening to the NFL channel on Sirius and they were discussing AG's connection to the Jets. They seemed to believe thats were he will end up.

As for McCarthy, they were saying that Mike knew he would be out of Dalas 6-8 weeks ago. Said he was enjoying coaching and supporting his players. He was content with the eventual outcome. They also said that while McCarthy could not talk with other teams, certain conversations could be had that skirt around the rule. McCarthy's people could say "if Mike were available, is he the kind of guy that would interest you". Then a team could say "yeah, a coach like Mike would be great". They insinuated that those types of conversations happend with a couple of teams.

 

[WhoDat6278]

If this is true then the concern is we end up hiring Rizzi which would be extremely painful.

If we can’t get Glenn or McCarthy I’d much rather us take a bet on Brady or Liam Coen.

 

[TruSaint]

I live in Moab, which is much different than some other parts of the state, but I travel all over the place for football and wrestling most weeks/weekends throughout the year. Here's how I would rank the cities you mentioned:

1) Cedar City - I think the Cedar City/St. George area is the best part of the state. It's stunning, clean, lots of amenities, but doesn't feel like a "big city". Short two-hour trip to Vegas if you want to get away and experience something different. SLC is only three hours via I-15.
2) Provo - its a beautiful college town that feels like southside SLC. Good restaurants, retail, coffee, ect. A little more dense than Cedar City, but still feels like a town more than a big city.
3) SLC - it's amazing how SLC has exploded over the last decade. Lots of big-time sporting events, conventions, ect. New NHL team. Great schools - Corner Canyon in Draper is incredible. Lots of money, expensive houses. Starting to suffer a little bit from "big city" symptoms such as traffic and smog issues, the latter of which is heartbreaking when you can't see the mountains on certain days.
4) Ogden - seems like a nice enough bedroom community, but it feels a little cut off from the rest of the state. You have to drive through SLC traffic to get anywhere else, and it's pretty much farmland any further north in Utah and Idaho.

Good info, thanks.

 

[NatureBoy]

If this is true then the concern is we end up hiring Rizzi which would be extremely painful.

If we can’t get Glenn or McCarthy I’d much rather us take a bet on Brady or Liam Coen.

If it's not Glenn or McCarthy, I think it's a shoutout between Brady, Kafka and Kingsbury. I actually like Kingsbury, I think he learned a lot in Arizona. He had some success until Kyler's season ending injury too.

 

[Saint Jack]

Since 2001, the Jets have had 6 head coaches--none have left with a winning record. Whoever ends up there, hope they have fun

In their ENTIRE history, the Jets have only had two winning HCs.
Parcells who only spent three seasons and Al Groh who only spent a single season there.

 

[Saint Jack]

If it's not Glenn or McCarthy, I think it's a shoutout between Brady, Kafka and Kingsbury. I actually like Kingsbury, I think he learned a lot in Arizona. He had some success until Kyler's season ending injury too.

If it’s not Glenn or McCarthy, I think it’s Brady.
Sell the fanbase on his past success in the state with LSU.

 

[TruSaint]

This saints roster is a disaster, very curious to see who wants to come here

 

[St. Widge]

I highly doubt that Aaron will be brought back.

Nobody knows except Woody Johnson and he may be as crazy as Rodgers.

 

[Pocket Hercules]

I think you are spot on for most of this. While at this moment we could say we have a better front office than the Jets, it's kind of like saying we're both terminal but we have a little longer to live (than the Jets). Neither are good situations.

I like our front office, and I think it is considered an asset in the perception of our coaching search around the league. We draft well enough, we are aggressive in FA when we can be, and we do all we can to give coaches a chance to be successful and to support them publicly and privately when things aren't going well. We treat our homegrown players well, even if to a fault sometimes, but I think that coaches and players see the Saints as a good place to work. I believe our FO will get things back on track, and we'll swing for the fences when we have an opportunity to. That's all you can ask of a FO.

The failure to identify and address our excessive injury issues is the biggest shortcoming of our FO/organization at this time. With even a little bit better injury luck, I think the last 4 seasons of Saints football would be viewed through an entirely different lens. DA was the wrong guy and not my first choice, but it made sense to give him the opportunity. Even though we're in a difficult situation right now with roster depth and the salary cap, we won't blow everything up. We'll endure a soft rebuild next year, and have an opportunity to be competitive again in '26 with the right coach and a couple of decent drafts.