Marquez Valdes-Scantling signs with Seahawks to 1-year deal worth up to $5.5 million (102 Viewers)

[RaisingTheBar]

What are you even talking about dude My comment about CWJ was soley about CWJ. You replied to the wrong person who said they would rather MVS.

It seems you're (easily) confused. Everything said so far has related to what you started with:


This, posted on a thread about MVS signing elsewhere, has the clear inference that you have decided MVS > Wilson and you've been spitting your dummy ever since.

I responded to someone who said “I would much rather had Scantling on the roster than Cedric Wilson.”

With a statement of we should release CWJ. That does NOT mean I agree with everything that person said and if that’s what you got out of it you’re reading comprehension sucks. Whether MVS signed with us or not, I would have said the same thing about moving on from CWJ. It’s ok you jumped to conclusions, move on now.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

It seems you're (easily) confused. Everything said so far has related to what you started with:


This, posted on a thread about MVS signing elsewhere, has the clear inference that you have decided MVS > Wilson and you've been spitting your dummy ever since.

I have many British friends and I’ve not heard this one. Off to google I go lol.

That was awesome lol. I’m such a dork. Love learning stuff like that.
Australian, and they call the pacifier a dummy. Wild! In this neck of the woods the pacifier is called a fooler.

Love how things are so different in so many ways, so many places. That is absolutely neato mosquito. @TribuneUK

 

[TribuneUK]

I responded to someone who said “I would much rather had Scantling on the roster than Cedric Wilson.”

With a statement of we should release CWJ. That does NOT mean I agree with everything that person said and if that’s what you got out of it you’re reading comprehension sucks. Whether MVS signed with us or not, I would have said the same thing about moving on from CWJ. It’s ok you jumped to conclusions, move on now.

So, you talked about CWJ doing nothing for us, how it's totally worth cutting him, incurring more dead cap, but none of that means I should object to your suggestion of cutting CWJ and the idea of just throwing some more dead cap on the bonfire?

Were you Captain of the debate team?

 

[RaisingTheBar]

So, you talked about CWJ doing nothing for us, how it's totally worth cutting him, incurring more dead cap, but none of that means I should object to your suggestion of cutting CWJ and the idea of just throwing some more dead cap on the bonfire?

Were you Captain of the debate team?

The dead cap is there already at a whopping 1 mil. we could save over 2mil this year by releasing him. You said something about bad math?? That’s funny. I didn’t say you couldn’t object to an opinion,you don’t have to act like that however, you objected saying that I was upset that we didn’t keep MVS and instead they were keeping CWJ. which couldn’t be further from the truth. We could cut every wide receiver on the team and I still think we should get rid of a super easily replaceable CWJ. Keep up the personal insults too it shows how pathetic you are.

 

[B4YOU]

We should have signed MVS, released Wilson, and eaten the cap hit for Juwan’s void years.

 

[TribuneUK]

The dead cap is there already at a whopping 1 mil. we could save over 2mil this year by releasing him. You said something about bad math?? That’s funny. I didn’t say you couldn’t object to an opinion,you don’t have to act like that however, you objected saying that I was upset that we didn’t keep MVS and instead they were keeping CWJ. which couldn’t be further from the truth. We could cut every wide receiver on the team and I still think we should get rid of a super easily replaceable CWJ. Keep up the personal insults too it shows how pathetic you are.

If the dead cap is already there, regardless of keeping or cutting, then that's indeed a different kettle of fish.

Meanwhile, I still just see the usual dislike for an unexciting depth guy that crops up in this fanbase time and again, however you choose to dress it up. The guy has a role, whether you want him cut or not, whether you see him 'doing anything for us' and that's all there is.

 

[RaisingTheBar]

If the dead cap is already there, regardless of keeping or cutting, then that's indeed a different kettle of fish.

Meanwhile, I still just see the usual dislike for an unexciting depth guy that crops up in this fanbase time and again, however you choose to dress it up. The guy has a role, whether you want him cut or not, whether you see him 'doing anything for us' and that's all there is.

I never said he doesn’t have a role. On a team that is over the cap year in and year out and have to constantly restructure every dollar counts. Replacing anyone with a player who is younger/cheaper and saving money in the process is a no brainer to me for a team that’s in a reset or in denial it’s in a reset. In the grand scheme of things this single 2+mil will not change a whole lot, however it’s a mindset. That’s exactly why it has nothing to do with CWJ specifically. If Dante Petis had a similar contract I’d be saying the same exact thing.

 

[SAINTSFAN]

I would much rather had Scantling on the roster than Cedric Wilson. Carr's accuracy on deep play action was one of our best plays as a team.

Cannot understand why Wilson is still on the roster. He is not worth a dime over league minimum and we are paying him $2.7 million. Cutting him was one of the few cuts we could make and save cap space.

 

[RaisingTheBar]

Cannot understand why Wilson is still on the roster. He is not worth a dime over league minimum and we are paying him $2.7 million. Cutting him was one of the few cuts we could make and save cap space.

You better watch out saying things like this …

 

[TribuneUK]

I never said he doesn’t have a role. On a team that is over the cap year in and year out and have to constantly restructure every dollar counts. Replacing anyone with a player who is younger/cheaper and saving money in the process is a no brainer to me for a team that’s in a reset or in denial it’s in a reset. In the grand scheme of things this single 2+mil will not change a whole lot, however it’s a mindset. That’s exactly why it has nothing to do with CWJ specifically. If Dante Petis had a similar contract I’d be saying the same exact thing.

So I'd say that the salary-focused ideal is a constant churn of young, cheap, effective and eminently replaceable role players, but I guess that at a certain point in roster construction you need to include someone who has some experience and proven ability (to whatever degree) to mix in with your young protégés/canon fodder.

 

[AARPSaint]

I have many British friends and I’ve not heard this one. Off to google I go lol.

According to Google, it’s mainly an Australian expression that describes a lot of the posts on this thread. I have a wonderful book written by an American who has lived in London for years called “Blimey, I’m Knackered.” It essentially translates British expressions into American.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

According to Google, it’s mainly an Australian expression that describes a lot of the posts on this thread. I have a wonderful book written by an American who has lived in London for years called “Blimey, I’m Knackered.” It essentially translates British expressions into American.

Yep I went down the rabbit hole and edited my original. Too dang cool, I’m very much into the cultural differences of folks across the globe. I have many friends from other places than the States and they usually keep me up to date as it all fascinates me. I may check that book out too lol.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

So I'd say that the salary-focused ideal is a constant churn of young, cheap, effective and eminently replaceable role players, but I guess that at a certain point in roster construction you need to include someone who has some experience and proven ability (to whatever degree) to mix in with your young protégés/canon fodder.

It’s not smart, and I know this, but I’d rather replace all wideouts on the team not named Olave Shaheed or Means….with UDFA’s and draft picks. Kind of trying to catch lightning in a bottle, whereas we know what we (don’t) have with the roster bottom churners already on the team.

 

[TribuneUK]

It’s not smart, and I know this, but I’d rather replace all wideouts on the team not named Olave Shaheed or Means….with UDFA’s and draft picks. Kind of trying to catch lightning in a bottle, whereas we know what we (don’t) have with the roster bottom churners already on the team.

I think it's easy to say that you should chase the ceiling and ignore the floor, but ultimately you need that floor. There are roster limits and only so many exemptions and practice squad places available, so teams have to make choices.