Mascona has had enough (so have I) (1 Viewer)

[GrandAdmiral]

Eric Asher on 106.1

Wait, Asher is still around? I've been gone way too long.

 

[DerrickB]

I wonder what Scons referral traffic is from that video since it was shared to this board. Man doing something right. Lol
Thread is five pages long.

 

[St. Widge]

I wonder what Scons referral traffic is from that video since it was shared to this board. Man doing something right. Lol
Thread is five pages long.

Don't get me wrong. He's good at his job since his job is to get hits and ratings. I just personally don't like the way he does it.

 

[MarylandWHODAT]

Blind squirrels and all that.

True. I mean, the Saints are downright awful this year and he's not wrong about the franchise right now. If they are on the air long enough, they are bound to get something right.

"Says it like it is . . ." is always what people say when someone agrees with them. But, it's opinion, not fact.

Yup. It's opinion. And I recognize that. I like the way he says what he says. I don't agree with him all the time. Is it gospel? No. Is it straight from Airline Drive? No. Is it what I'm thinking at this time? Yeah. Is he in the same line of thinking of this team as me? Yes.

But is it fact? No.

 

[rlemieux]

Underhill wasn't really supportive or not supportive of Carr or the Philly trade. He reported the facts and the advantages and disadvantages. Underhill has always been in the camp of you do everything you can to find a franchise QB including draft and free agency so to that extent he's not critical of the Carr signing but he has pointed out the issues Carr has and what he needs to work on. And frankly, the Carr signing has worked out fine. He's being paid at the level of QB he is and we have seen that there is a huge difference between his play and that of less experienced QBs. Maybe had we not signed Carr we would have gotten a year of a Baker Mayfield situation, but we easily could have also missed on someone like that in the old offense and be worse off now. Besides that, Mayfield now gets paid like Carr.

We need to find a young QB that we can groom to be a franchise QB, but having Carr here doesn't hurt that.

And the idea that the "finger needs to pointed at Loomis as the root of the organization's problems" is your opinion, the opinion of some other posters here, and Moscona's opinion. Not some established fact that a member of the media has to agree with and has to establish a crusade about. Pointing the finger at members of the organization is not the job of a journalist or a member of the media. But I know in this 24 hour news cycle world we have come to believe that all news needs to come with opinions and accusations.

Both Underhill and Trip have talked about what the Saints do with the cap and the advantages and disadvantages of it. And they have both been critical of the drafts, the constant trades up, and the signing of older players. But they don't go on YouTube and rant about it. But, Nick did write a long article that was very critical of the current cap situation and noting that it needs to be fixed.

And frankly, if you cared to know what Underhill or Triplett said about the team while some of his content is behind a pay wall, he has plenty of free content on his YouTube channel at NOF Network and posts plenty of things on Twitter/X. And he does at least one non-paywalled podcast per week.

But no, he doesn't spend every show ranting about the team.

I have never been a big Underhill fan. He is on 104.5 weekly and through the season his approach to the team seems to be changing. While he can't call out the front office or coach like Moscona does he as been a little more free with his criticism. He has also been more about saying things without actually saying them. This past week he pretty much confirmed some of the rumours about the structure of the Saints front office and ownership by saying "there is not team in the league like it and there's a reason for that". He also made a comment about Kamara talking about the player only meeting saying he took it as Kamara saying the coaches weren't doing it so it was up to them. Again, he's been subtle, he has to be, but he's been moving further and further away from the company man theme and actually interjecting some breakdown of how the team thinks, operates and what is opinion being around the team is.

 

[St. Widge]

I have never been a big Underhill fan. He is on 104.5 weekly and through the season his approach to the team seems to be changing. While he can't call out the front office or coach like Moscona does he as been a little more free with his criticism. He has also been more about saying things without actually saying them. This past week he pretty much confirmed some of the rumours about the structure of the Saints front office and ownership by saying "there is not team in the league like it and there's a reason for that". He also made a comment about Kamara talking about the player only meeting saying he took it as Kamara saying the coaches weren't doing it so it was up to them. Again, he's been subtle, he has to be, but he's been moving further and further away from the company man theme and actually interjecting some breakdown of how the team thinks, operates and what is opinion being around the team is.

That's fair. I think Underhill has always dropped hints and you have to read between the lines when it comes to some information that he likely got from sources that didn't want him to say it directly. He has certainly pointed out that our front office is more insular than any in the league and that they don't really care what people outside the building think. That can be good and bad at times and I suspect it has a lot to do with Bounty Gate and the organization now not being willing to trust anyone else with information because it can lead to leaks that get twisted and blown out of proportion.

Still, that doesn't mean that they are okay with the way things are going and it doesn't mean that they aren't going to move on from DA. It also doesn't mean that they won't move on from Loomis or move him to another position while hiring a new GM at some point.

 

[rlemieux]

That's fair. I think Underhill has always dropped hints and you have to read between the lines when it comes to some information that he likely got from sources that didn't want him to say it directly. He has certainly pointed out that our front office is more insular than any in the league and that they don't really care what people outside the building think. That can be good and bad at times and I suspect it has a lot to do with Bounty Gate and the organization now not being willing to trust anyone else with information because it can lead to leaks that get twisted and blown out of proportion.

Still, that doesn't mean that they are okay with the way things are going and it doesn't mean that they aren't going to move on from DA. It also doesn't mean that they won't move on from Loomis or move him to another position while hiring a new GM at some point.

If Loomis moves it’ll be because he wants to not because Gayle or anyone else requests it. I can almost guarantee that.

 

[cygnus_ltb]

Those who can do, those who can't cry about it. What was his solution.

His solution was fire Mickey Loomis

 

[No2DC]

What is wrong with balanced reflection on what the team needs to do better? Why wouldn't I want that over some vitriol filled emotional rant?

As I said, people always think someone is telling the truth and not appealing to the lowest common denominator when they agree with them. And for the third or fourth time, it's not whether Moscona is right or not. He is partially right about a lot of it, but it's the delivery and vitriol that I take issue with. If you like people turn criticism of grown men playing a game into personal attacks and dumb nicknames then that's cool I just personally think it makes him as butt crevasse and a tool.

Beyond that, being openly critical isn't really the job of the media. Their job is to report what is going on and tell us about it. We have lost sight of that in an era where editorial commentary is masquerading as news and where we look to social media like the people on it are reporters. They aren't bound by the same ethics that a journalist should be bound by. Certainly they can do some editorial content, but being critical and ranting the way Moscona does are two different things.

So, you can't compare Moscona to the actual journalists covering the team.

That being said Underhill, for example, has often times been critical of performance and coaching. Including constant talk about Pete not using motion or play action. And he has been critical of the lack of production in the drafts and of the cap management post Drew Brees. But, nobody notices because he doesn't yell and act like a giant butt crevasse to get attention. T-Bob Hebert has been very critical but again he doesn't resort to being a giant tool to get clicks.

Frankly, every member of the local media, outside of maybe Duncan, has been critical of the team and even Duncan has made critical comments.

If you want open criticism in the local media, I suggest you listen to what Jim Mora has to say about the team every week. That's a man with some actual knowledge about football, the NFL, and the Saints who goes off on them.

When I say balanced, I'm referring to discussing all potential challenges but conveniently leaving Loomis out of the discussion. There are ways to discuss the broader issues: FO and ownership unknowns without vitriol and personal attacks. We are going three years of this mess and the bulk of local media reports a bunch of I hope we do better bulljive.

 

[Kingston]

Although Moscona seems like he’s trying to make Saints radio like New York and Philly with the yelling, I can’t disagree with anything he’s said.

Well he is off the air in NOLA now which I knew was coming once the pelicans went over to WWL so ESPN NOLA is now a hip hop radio station with the still jacked up signal that never comes in clear unless you are out in bayou country south of the city. All we have here in NOLA over the air radio is same old junk on WWL Radio. I do like Duces show on Friday even if he has Mike Hoss tagging along. Sports radio in NOLA is simply a single station.

 

[Devildog]

Well he is off the air in NOLA now which I knew was coming once the pelicans went over to WWL so ESPN NOLA is now a hip hop radio station with the still jacked up signal that never comes in clear unless you are out in bayou country south of the city. All we have here in NOLA over the air radio is same old junk on WWL Radio. I do like Duces show on Friday even if he has Mike Hoss tagging along. Sports radio in NOLA is simply a single station.

Forgive me for not knowing since I don't live in the area anymore, but is 104.5 in Baton Rouge? Can y'all pick it up in New Orleans?

 

[Kingston]

Forgive me for not knowing since I don't live in the area anymore, but is 104.5 in Baton Rouge? Can y'all pick it up in New Orleans?

Some times I am on the westbank so not down here and if so it’s not clear at all it does come in good on the north shore and sometimes u can catch it in Metairie but not to clear.

 

[rlemieux]

Well he is off the air in NOLA now which I knew was coming once the pelicans went over to WWL so ESPN NOLA is now a hip hop radio station with the still jacked up signal that never comes in clear unless you are out in bayou country south of the city. All we have here in NOLA over the air radio is same old junk on WWL Radio. I do like Duces show on Friday even if he has Mike Hoss tagging along. Sports radio in NOLA is simply a single station.

98.1 has an HD channel that’s 104.5. I get it from St. Francisville to Hammond to Nola.