Mock Draft [Simulators] Compilation Thread - 2025 NFL Draft (11 Viewers)

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

Not sure I agree with that based on how many one handed lobs I have seen him catch both on the court and on the field... sometimes a body catch is the safe catch... (Over the middle - Side line 1 on 1 - Some back shoulder)

I agree he has the ability to reach out and get it. I'm saying that I wish that he attacked the ball in the air more consistently.



As you watch through this you'll see a large portion of his catches be tends to wait for the ball and body catch/catch right in front of his body instead of reaching out and extending for the ball.

Is it a big deal? No. But if he wants to truly maximize his size he needs to attack the ball and extend his hands out instead of giving defenders more time to swat the ball.

At his frame and arm length if he extended to attack the ball there's not a defender alive that could swat it.

 

[Snakehead]

Tet was available, but I went Jeanty. I traded a 2026 5th with 111 to move to 101 for Howard. Who knows if I needed to do that or not, buy his ADP had been 101. This was a late night just screwing around draft.

 

[MikeyF]

Warren and Bowers are completely different archetypes.

Bowers is your elusive fluid athlete. Who wins by route running and natural feel of the game. Sure his speed helps but it's his fluidity that makes him special.

Warren is stiffer but significantly larger. He wins off his ridiculous size advantage. He doesn't need to create the separation Bowers does because he can just physically dominate his defender by virtue of being 3+ inches taller and 40lbs heavier.

His 4.48 forty time makes him special!

 

[Snakehead]

Yes and no.

I've had Warren above Loveland for months but many of you are comparing stats without keeping situations in mind.

Loveland is TWO years younger. True junior vs 5th year senior.

Warren was a literal nobody at the age Loveland is heading into the draft. In theory you have significant growth ahead of Loveland.

Loveland was also in the worst situation in CFB but still managed to put up excellent numbers.

In fact Loveland is responsible for a larger share of Michigans passing yards than Warren is for Penn State. If you flip their teams who knows how good he could have been.

Some reports talk about Loveland as like a Big X WR, so I wonder if Mike Gisecki is a comp for him.

However, teams used to be worried about if a TE can block then catch, now the first question is if they can catch.

It would depend on how a team wants ti use him initially and then see how he develops.

 

[Infoman]

I agree he has the ability to reach out and get it. I'm saying that I wish that he attacked the ball in the air more consistently.



As you watch through this you'll see a large portion of his catches be tends to wait for the ball and body catch/catch right in front of his body instead of reaching out and extending for the ball.

Is it a big deal? No. But if he wants to truly maximize his size he needs to attack the ball and extend his hands out instead of giving defenders more time to swat the ball.

At his frame and arm length if he extended to attack the ball there's not a defender alive that could swat it.

His first 6 catches in that clip are all hands catches, and the 7th was badly thrown and hit his chest... I've seen the vids... many of his body catches, as I said, were necessity (ball placement / ball protection) more than form... we'll just have to disagree.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

His 4.48 forty time makes him special!

He ran a 4.53 at his pro day....

Would be closer to 4.6 if at the combine..

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

His first 6 catches in that clip are all hands catches, and the 7th was badly thrown and hit his chest... I've seen the vids... many of his body catches, as I said, were necessity (ball placement / ball protection) more than form... we'll just have to disagree.

I mean keep watching the video.

There are PLENTY of examples of him waiting till the ball reaches him to catch it.

No prospect is perfect. One of his flaws is he often waits to catch the ball and thus gives defenders a chance for a PBU.

 

[MikeyF]

He ran a 4.53 at his pro day....

Would be closer to 4.6 if at the combine..

 

[Treybad]

Curious anyone try trading up to the #1 pick? Pretty much a no go pff simulator since I can't use 2027 or 2028 draft picks although probably a no go as well... with in reasons not any Ditka trades