Moore's QB Type (1 Viewer)

[Rexman100]

Moore's QB types seem to be accurate passer and able to scramble and run the ball which to me leaves Sanders out because he has no pocket presents and holds the the ball to long to protect his passer rating and takes too many sacks. We can all agree Ward will not be there at 9 so besides Dart what other QB best fits Moore's QB type?

Just have to remember, Moore didn’t draft Dak, Herbert or Hurts. So you can’t necessarily say that they are his preferred Qb type. He was a highly successful Qb himself, I’d think he’d like someone similar to him, but better. Km was a highly accurate and successful (50-3) pocket passer 3500-3800 yards passing. -133 yards rushing. So I’d expect somone similar in passing accuracy, bigger and faster and has some ability for off script plays with an ability to throw off platform.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

While Moore was with the Eagles, he had the luxury of being on a team that was not only solid on offense but on defense as well. The Eagles were a well rounded team. Right now, the Saints are not. I don't think it matters who the Saints have this year at QB, this position will be exposed due to the fact this team is in rebuilding mode. I'm all in for a QB that Moore wants as long as he doesn't give up picks to move up in the draft. No QB in this years draft class is worth that.

People are hung up on saying this mostly because the media has been saying it since the end of the college season. The media further pushed this narrative when Drew Allar decided to return back to Penn State for another year. I've come to the conclusion that its a false narrative. Ward (seems) quite good according to many. Even if you go back to the 2020 draft and compare this year's top 4 QB's (Ward, Dart, Shough, Sanders) you would find that at least 2 of the 4, if not 3 of the 4 would likely be first round picks in that draft. That draft had Burrow, Herbert and Love go in the first round and its reasonable to argue that Ward and Dart would've gone before Love, and maybe even rivaled Herbert.

Everyone being stuck on Sanders who reportedly has a second round grade by many teams with the media continuing to hype him up as a top 10 pick ignoring scouts concerns further adds speculation and validation to fans that this draft class is weak. It's simply not true.

Even if you compare this crop of QB's to last year, you could easily say that Ward and Dart would rival Penix and Bo Nix who both went top 10.

This means we 4 QB's in this draft who could become successful QB1's in the NFL over the course of 5 years. There's nothing weak about that. And if you include McCord (which some say to) that would be 5. And I wouldn't completely rule out Dillion Gabriel either. If he were 4 inches taller he would be talked about being a top 60 pick. That's not even getting into Ewers and Howard.

No, theres nothing weak about this QB class. At all. At the very least, this is a deep draft for QBs.

 

[Rexman100]

Yep. Every time I watched Philly play while Moore was there, he kept things so simple for Hurts. It’s why I feel that one of these QBs, even Milroe, could operate that version of Moore’s system.

Perhaps Rattler can too, however I have a feeling that Moore is going to strongly want his own guy.

Also people need to remember that there will be a fair evaluation. For example I doubt that they’d start Shedeur because they drafted him at 9, and was clearly beat out by Rattler in camp/preseason. Rattler like he has his entire career will have to win the position. As fans we should just sit back and enjoy the competition because the best man will be QB1. With that said, bring in competition either through the draft or FA and let the chips fall where they may.

 

[fishing4food]

People are hung up on saying this mostly because the media has been saying it since the end of the college season. The media further pushed this narrative when Drew Allar decided to return back to Penn State for another year. I've come to the conclusion that its a false narrative. Ward (seems) quite good according to many. Even if you go back to the 2020 draft and compare this year's top 4 QB's (Ward, Dart, Shough, Sanders) you would find that at least 2 of the 4, if not 3 of the 4 would likely be first round picks in that draft. That draft had Burrow, Herbert and Love go in the first round and its reasonable to argue that Ward and Dart would've gone before Love, and maybe even rivaled Herbert.

Everyone being stuck on Sanders who reportedly has a second round grade by many teams with the media continuing to hype him up as a top 10 pick ignoring scouts concerns further adds speculation and validation to fans that this draft class is weak. It's simply not true.

Even if you compare this crop of QB's to last year, you could easily say that Ward and Dart would rival Penix and Bo Nix who both went top 10.

This means we 4 QB's in this draft who could become successful QB1's in the NFL over the course of 5 years. There's nothing weak about that. And if you include McCord (which some say to) that would be 5. And I wouldn't completely rule out Dillion Gabriel either. If he were 4 inches taller he would be talked about being a top 60 pick. That's not even getting into Ewers and Howard.

No, theres nothing weak about this QB class. At all. At the very least, this is a deep draft for QBs.

This is not the media's narrative that I posted but my own observation. There are more concerns with this year's class of QB's than in the past. I will also stick by with saying the Saints will be searching for fools gold if they trade up in the first round for a QB.

 

[WilliamBrees]

It's kind of a loaded discussion that has evolved but still has certain biases underlying it. Technically, Hurts is the first non-classical quarterback to win a ring, although, if we're being honest, Steve Young did it decades ago (Unitias?). You don't want your QB being exposed to clean hits, no matter how big they are.
"Make him beat you from the pocket" is still the strategy that D coordinators employ or preach when it comes to guys like Lamar, Josh, and Hurts.
I find it ironic that the son of one of the most gifted athletes in pro sports was trained and raised to be a pure pocket passer and now his perceived lack of athletic ability is a knock.
QBs are judged on their pocket ability and winning on third down, that hasn't changed. One reason Philly won the ring is that teams stacked the line on third and dared Hurts to beat them. He made critical plays against Washington and the Chiefs on third down.
Despite all of this, I think the prototype is a pocket guy with a decent athletic ability to scramble when the protection breaks down.

Most people don't make it as a pocket passer. But I really don't think Deion knows more about a position he hasn't played than those that played it.
The pocket passer QBs that win SBs have some other intangible about them. Maybe it's a inner toughness, lack of emotion(which isn't a good thing), and authenticity. A copycat doesn't produce the same results.

 

[No2DC]

Most people don't make it as a pocket passer. But I really don't think Deion knows more about a position he hasn't played than those that played it.
The pocket passer QBs that win SBs have some other intangible about them. Maybe it's a inner toughness, lack of emotion(which isn't a good thing), and authenticity. A copycat doesn't produce the same results.

Copycat? Intangibles? You're just saying stuff now, as we don't know about any of these guys intangibles. Deion may not know the QB position directly but he exposed the kid to former pro quarterbacks like Jeff Blake since high school. I'm not sure how well he will do on the next level, but he has the tools.

 

[DerrickB]

I thought he didn't have a type?
Seems like he's versatile enough to work with any QB.

 

[Elvis]

A lot of people are saying he’s worked with a lot of different types of QBs to say that he doesn’t have a type, but to the OPs point Moore must have a preference of some sort. You’d probably have to dig through old interviews to really get a sense of it. If I were to guess, I’d say his preference would be more cerebral than anything. A guy that really understands everything in front of him and with enough physical traits that allow him to play QB. Basically the brain of Moore but the body and attributes of an NFL QB even if those attributes aren’t elite.

 

[St. Widge]

A lot of people are saying he’s worked with a lot of different types of QBs to say that he doesn’t have a type, but to the OPs point Moore must have a preference of some sort. You’d probably have to dig through old interviews to really get a sense of it. If I were to guess, I’d say his preference would be more cerebral than anything. A guy that really understands everything in front of him and with enough physical traits that allow him to play QB. Basically the brain of Moore but the body and attributes of an NFL QB even if those attributes aren’t elite.

I would think that too. But we know they love Ward and apparently see Sanders as more of a 2nd round guy. And I think Ward more fits the mobile physical traits guy more than the cerebral guy and Sanders is the cerebral pocket passer. But, maybe that's specific to these two players.

In the end, I think every coach wants the perfect QB that is mobile but is also able to sit in the pocket like Brees and Brady. Moore seems to be a guy that likes to get inventive and likes to run exotic plays which likely requires a more athletic QB. But, that's just my guess and I could be wrong. When they ask Moore things like this he's likely just going to say he wants the best player no matter what type he is and it's his job to get the best out of whoever it is. Maybe that's just coach speak but maybe he really means it and doesn't have a specific type that he wants.