My case for Brady...or Kafka or a Coen type (1 Viewer)

[jesusfish]

It's obviously become trendy to try to hire innovative offensive minds to run your team. I think if we want to hire an up and coming OC, we have to do it a year or two too early.

This hiring cycle is showing where we fall on the HC candidate wish list. If we want to get the next big thing on offensive playcalling, we simply cannot wait for the candidate to become the next big thing. Otherwise, we will go another cycle not even getting a virtual interview with the Ben Johnson's of the world. I strongly suspect even a multi-time failure HC like Kingsbury will defer interviews here until he signs elsewhere.

if we want the next Ben Johnson, we need to hire him before he has proven to be the next Ben Johnson. It's risky as heck. And I don't think Loomis stakes his possibly last HC hire on such a risk, when I think he's still angling for a HoF resume'. But it's time for some high risk moves.

 

[Saint Greg]

I like Coen but it doesn’t seem like he’s going to be a candidate. I won’t be upset if it’s Kafka or Brady. Just hope we get the next young offensive genius. But the stakes are high. If we whiff on two coaches in a row, it’s going to get really bad. I think we go with the safe solid pick of McCarthy

 

[No2DC]

I don't think Mick gambles on this hire; he probably goes the safe route with Mike.

 

[guillermo]

I like Coen but it doesn’t seem like he’s going to be a candidate. I won’t be upset if it’s Kafka or Brady. Just hope we get the next young offensive genius. But the stakes are high. If we whiff on two coaches in a row, it’s going to get really bad. I think we go with the safe solid pick of McCarthy

By looking at offense numbers, Coen has the best results.

That would be my hire, but he may end with the Jaguars.

 

[Saint Greg]

By looking at offense numbers, Coen has the best results.

That would be my hire, but he may end with the Jaguars.

I had Coen 2nd on my list after Ben Johnson.

 

[Fiyo]

I like Coen but it doesn’t seem like he’s going to be a candidate. I won’t be upset if it’s Kafka or Brady. Just hope we get the next young offensive genius. But the stakes are high. If we whiff on two coaches in a row, it’s going to get really bad. I think we go with the safe solid pick of McCarthy

I have to agree. At this point the ways things have shaken out to this point after of the three you mentioned I would be good with ... but I'm betting on McCarthy and I'm really good with that because I have hopes he'd like to stick it to Jerrah for playing games and thinking he knows WAY more than JJ obviously knows

 

[SweetT]

Coen is intriguing. I honestly thought that the Bucs offense would decline when he took over. Yet, they didn’t. The only issue I had with Coen this year, was he took too long making Bucky Irving the starting RB. Bucky is a more superior back than White. We all saw it early on. Not sure why he procrastinated?!?! It would be nice to steal him away from the Bucs

 

[3ParStillDriver]

Coen is likely a lock for the Jags. I think for us it’s down to MM, Brady, Kafka, Rizzi or Moore.

Mike is the safest pick but unexciting. I’m quite confident that the results wouldn’t equate to Super Bowl or even NFC Championship appearance. Even with luck and refs on our side.

Moore, and Rizzi would equate to a .500 team roughly (if that) imo so I’m completely out on them.

Brady seems like the wildcard. I don’t think he would be any worse then a .500 team but the ceiling could be Super Bowl.

So for me, it’s Brady.

Kafka is the strangest. I think he’ll depend heavily on coordinators and our success and failures would depend on having two hot coordinators at the same time, which seems unrealistic. But even Kafka would be a bit of an unknown for anyone to come up with any expectations. So I may find him a touch more appealing then McCarthy.

 

[jesusfish]

Something happened between the Saints and Coen. Underhill has reported that Allen wanted Coen as his OC either his 1st or 2nd season as HC (I can't remember which) but they couldn't get him and he ended up taking the OC job at Kentucky over us. Now he's not even on our radar when he's exactly the kind of guy we should be looking at.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

Something happened between the Saints and Coen. Underhill has reported that Allen wanted Coen as his OC either his 1st or 2nd season as HC (I can't remember which) but they couldn't get him and he ended up taking the OC job at Kentucky over us. Now he's not even on our radar when he's exactly the kind of guy we should be looking at.

It’s extremely curious that we didn’t hear one official word about the saints and Coen nor the saints and Ben Johnson.

Kinda hard to do a really thorough process when you don’t reach out to 2 of the 4 hottest coaching candidates at all.

 

[jesusfish]

It’s extremely curious that we didn’t hear one official word about the saints and Coen nor the saints and Ben Johnson.

Kinda hard to do a really thorough process when you don’t reach out to 2 of the 4 hottest coaching candidates at all.

I think the answer to Ben Johnson is likely that the Saints decision makers got word from his agent that he wasn't interested. It goes back to that "Ben Johnson is not interviewing with every team" tweet from some reporter. He was being picky, and we can all see that the Saints job is a bottom tier position to candidates this cycle.

For Coen, I don't know what the deal is with his relationship with this organization, but one side or the other or both is not interested in even getting to the interview stage.

 

[jesusfish]

I don't think Mick gambles on this hire; he probably goes the safe route with Mike.

I agree with you. And in the end, it may be the right choice. But if it were me, I'd be swinging for a homerun. If it's an abject failure and, say, Joe Brady just cannot lead a room, then you bottom out and have a good draft position for a rebuild.