Outdated "manners" you'd like to see go away (1 Viewer)

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There are elements to living in a "civilized" society that frankly kind of annoy me and I believe are outdated/unnecessary.

1. Elbows on dinner table - This one's a no-brainer. Serves no practical purpose. We should be able to put elbows wherever we want.

2. Holding doors open - This one will be controversial. Most of us grew up in the South with gentlemanly stuff. But I think unless his hands are full, there should be no pressure to ever hold a door open for a dude. Dudes can open their own doors. It gets dicier for women. But if we're going to live in a world where women are treated the same as men, we have to apply the same standards. And at the end of a day, it's a door. It's not like we're lifting a car off an infant. People who aren't carrying things can open their own doors.

3. Thanking someone during an arm's length transaction - Like thanking a toll booth operator for taking your money. Or thanking the Popeyes employee for handing you food you paid for. What are we thanking them for? The payment is the thanks. Now if they go above and beyond by getting you an extra packet of sauce or something, whatever. But I think we over-thank in this society.

4. Not discussing our pay with fellow employees - This one is tricky, and I haven't really given it much thought so unlike the above, it might be wrong. But by keeping your pay secret, you're giving your employer more negotiating power for raises and payment. If Bob is doing the same thing you are for more money, you know how far you can push when asking for more money. I think the idea of keeping your salary secret and talking about it as taboo is a stratagem cooked up by the wealthy to stay that way.

Any others?
 
Agree on 1.

2 is situational. If someone is right behind me I will hold it so then door doesnt swing shut in their face, but that's about it.

3 is just basic civility and your argument against it doesnt really hold water. Hard disagree.

4. I dont discuss my finances with other people, but if someone else wants to I dont care.
 
1. Agree with (except for really formal affairs...I realize that doesn't necessarily make sense)
2. Disagree with. It is a small, effortless act of kindness that costs nothing and never fails to get a thank you. The world could use more small acts if kindness, not less.
3. Disagree for the same reason as #2.
4. Nobody needs to know my pay. fork all you nosy bastages
 
Out of all those the one you are wishy washiest on is the one that most needs to go and for the reasons you stated. #4 the only one that benefits by no one knowing what everyone else makes is the employer.
 
1) Ok I'm with you on this one.

2) - 4) Nope, I'd rather people just keep doing these things
 
I'll put it how I've told my kids. Manners are an inconvenience but you're not doing them for yourself......you're doing them for others. I don't hound them on things like saying yes sir or yes ma'am. I do however expect them to open/hold doors for others
 
I didn't realize people still eat at the dinner table.

Don't they understand that coffee tables and TV trays are available now?
We still sit down at the table every night. Our schedules allow doing it but I understand how alot of families can't do that between work and kids extracurricular stuff. My oldest turned 16 this year and started working. He misses dinner now several nights a week. Hate looking at his empty spot when we eat. Dinner table feels empty.
 
We still sit down at the table every night. Our schedules allow doing it but I understand how alot of families can't do that between work and kids extracurricular stuff. My oldest turned 16 this year and started working. He misses dinner now several nights a week. Hate looking at his empty spot when we eat. Dinner table feels empty.

Oh, I was being sarcastic.

I believe in family time at the dinner table without staring at phones and the TV blaring.

But I'm single now and my kid is grown, so it's me and my TV tray and our good friend Netflix many nights.
 

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