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Changing the position of the toilet seat after you've used it.
Outdated "manners" you'd like to see go away (3 Viewers)
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Mr. Sparkle
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Nothing is stopping anyone from discussing their pay with coworkers (it's protected speech) especially in a situation where it seems obvious there is a major disparity or some other weirdness, but I still consider it worthwhile not to idly talk $ with co-workers.
One way or the other, someone is likely going to walk away feeling shafted. And I doubt anyone would be willing to take a major paycut in order to stay on the same level as a co-worker. Everyone just assumes that sharing pay info will result in higher pay for everyone.. hello...
It just opens up all kinds of bad workplace issues. Best to leave it be unless it becomes a real issue
One way or the other, someone is likely going to walk away feeling shafted. And I doubt anyone would be willing to take a major paycut in order to stay on the same level as a co-worker. Everyone just assumes that sharing pay info will result in higher pay for everyone.. hello...
It just opens up all kinds of bad workplace issues. Best to leave it be unless it becomes a real issue
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i do with mine, but the way ours work, it isn't difficult to figure out.
previous jobs, unless i know the person and especially if i am trying hire that person, it means i trust them and use it as a goal for them to reach. my close friends, i don't care what they know. i wear my 'issues' on my sleeve and i have a trust with them that supercedes most friendships or relationships.
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1. is a hard rule for my kids, because once their elbows are on the table, they start resting their heads in their hands and all eating stops.
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I can see where you're coming from on this as well. Take me for example. Let's say one other person and me, with the same title, started on the same day and same pay. I'm about to get a pay increase they wouldn't get because I've been doing more than one person's job for an extended length of time. If I don't also get an expanded title, and once my raise goes into effect, let's say we start talking about how much I make versus them, they are going to feel like they deserve more money, too. I personally would prefer the money AND the title but at a minimum I want the pay to compensate me for the additional work I've taken on.
I think that if it's being discussed openly, some considerations would have to be taken when comparing what you make to someone else. Hire date, market value at time of hire date, education, years of experience, span of responsibility, actual job performance, etc.
This is why I said before that people, if they've been at a place for awhile, should advocate for a market equity analysis to ensure their pay is in line with what newer folks coming into the same role are being paid - given that other criteria I mentioned above are similar (education, experience, span of control).
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Agree on one. I never understood why putting your elbows on the dinner table was rude and always found the concept silly.
What peeves me most about two is that men are always expected to hold the door open for women and it should just be a general gesture. If someone is behind me, I hold the door open for them regardless. I often get funny looks for doing it, but it’s a courtesy thing in my opinion. However, it’s not something I expect or anything like that because, like you said, it’s a door!
What peeves me most about two is that men are always expected to hold the door open for women and it should just be a general gesture. If someone is behind me, I hold the door open for them regardless. I often get funny looks for doing it, but it’s a courtesy thing in my opinion. However, it’s not something I expect or anything like that because, like you said, it’s a door!
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At least continue teaching children the nice way to do things, Ma'ams and Sirs!
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Going to the store in actual daily clothes rather than pajama pants, night shorts, etc. I don't give a rat's hoot what people at super 1 think of my attire. I'm just there to buy bacon and beer anyways!
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My working philosophy is that most employers will pay you exactly as much as is necessary to keep you from walking out the door, and that number can vary widely among nominally 'equal' workers for any number of reasons, many of which you point out.
It's a tricky subject and I think you did the absolute right thing by going in to your supervisor ask for a raise/promotion based on 6 months of pulling double duty, etc.
That's different than water cooler talk about who makes what. I still favor keeping a lid on that.
But I also hold doors for others, tell my kids to keep their elbows off the table, and say 'thank you' to the concession guy at the Dome handing me an overpriced beer.
You are a very "inward" observing person. At no point in my day do I look around and feel that society's problem is too much polite behavior...
1) This is manners born from practicality. People who put their elbows on the table tend to place their body weight on the table. Certain tables will tip, depending on how they're stabilized. It's probably less manners and more so you don't make an *** out of yourself to keep elbows off the table. Sure I guess you could look under every table to see how it's stabilized, but it's probably a better habit to just keep them off.
2) Holding open a door is basic civility. Unless someone is far away, it's expected and not unreasonable. I guess you can close it in their face, but that's a **** move. I'm not sure why gender matters here.
3) Thanking someone again is basic civility. I can't think of a single reason to not do it as it takes no effort. I'm 43 and it's basically automatic. What is the argument exactly for not doing this again? We don't thank people nearly enough in society. Kindness, however redundant it may feel is never a bad thing.
4) That's not manners. That's privacy. Feel free to share your income if you wish. It's only rude if you ask someone else for their pay information. Now, if there is actual concern for equal pay and you are looking for the information to form an argument to your employer for additional pay then I would encourage you to speak privately with the individual(s) and offer to share yours first in good faith.
As far as outdated manners, I can add that a woman should stand (just like men) during an introduction, there's no need to ask a father's "permission" to marry their daughter and keeping a napkin in your lap isn't really necessary. Although I will always remove a hat/cap when indoors, I understand that's not necessarily everyone's view. It doesn't bother me at all.
1) This is manners born from practicality. People who put their elbows on the table tend to place their body weight on the table. Certain tables will tip, depending on how they're stabilized. It's probably less manners and more so you don't make an *** out of yourself to keep elbows off the table. Sure I guess you could look under every table to see how it's stabilized, but it's probably a better habit to just keep them off.
2) Holding open a door is basic civility. Unless someone is far away, it's expected and not unreasonable. I guess you can close it in their face, but that's a **** move. I'm not sure why gender matters here.
3) Thanking someone again is basic civility. I can't think of a single reason to not do it as it takes no effort. I'm 43 and it's basically automatic. What is the argument exactly for not doing this again? We don't thank people nearly enough in society. Kindness, however redundant it may feel is never a bad thing.
4) That's not manners. That's privacy. Feel free to share your income if you wish. It's only rude if you ask someone else for their pay information. Now, if there is actual concern for equal pay and you are looking for the information to form an argument to your employer for additional pay then I would encourage you to speak privately with the individual(s) and offer to share yours first in good faith.
As far as outdated manners, I can add that a woman should stand (just like men) during an introduction, there's no need to ask a father's "permission" to marry their daughter and keeping a napkin in your lap isn't really necessary. Although I will always remove a hat/cap when indoors, I understand that's not necessarily everyone's view. It doesn't bother me at all.
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Why do we say 'God bless you' when we sneeze?
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I've never worried about this one. I want to be comfortable, not sitting stiffly with my hands in my lap.
Male, female; young, old; able bodied, visibly injured; hands full, hands free, I look at it as a random act of kindness. Something not expected (I do, however, expect at least a smile or a thank you if I do it).
I always thank them. Service industry workers get enough crap from the public. Again, not required, but why not be nice?
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I say please and thank you and you’re welcome. I say sir and ma’am. I hold the door for a lady and let them go first. I will hold the door for a man after I go in unless they appear older than me, then I let them go first. I thank people for their time when they have been helpful. I like to believe that I have done a decent job of passing these manners on to my kids.
However, I could care less about elbows on the table. I don’t usually take my hat off when going inside - because… why? We almost never eat dinner at our dining table, we are actually fixin to get rid of it and put a sitting area there.
However, I could care less about elbows on the table. I don’t usually take my hat off when going inside - because… why? We almost never eat dinner at our dining table, we are actually fixin to get rid of it and put a sitting area there.
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Not being able to spank other people's children. This needs to go away because some people's children need to be whooped!
(this is only partial sarcasm)
(this is only partial sarcasm)
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I should be able to **** with the bathroom door (at home) or stall door (public bathrooms) open.
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