Pat Kirwan said he heard Carr didn’t want to do Saints contract restructure (129 Viewers)

[kcirdor]

That was well played, I don't suspect it'll get the connection you're hoping to make but I certainly digested it properly. You in law?


I think were disconnected here. I went back and looked at Elvis original post and I read it wrong, thought he was suggesting we could find a starting QB after the 2nd round and my response was based on that. I agree w/ both of you're assessments.

Whoops.

Widge is a Tree Lawyer. When you wreck into a tree he sues you.

 

[St. Widge]

I was mostly being tongue and cheek. I imagine it's no different than Chipotle (never tried Chipotle). It's fine if you want a fast burrito. It's definitely not up there as far as a great Tex-Mex experience.

IMO in NOLA I'd go with Juan's Flying Burrito. But, yeah, whatever is convenient in a pinch.

 

[Elvis]

I don't subscribe to this one. I remember Sean Payton talking profusesly about there being certain positions where you have to pay a premium to get the best talent. There are some postitions like RB, LB, S, G...where you can find guys late in the draft. DE, CB, QB, LT are positions where the higher you draft them, the better your chances of getting a quality player.

Yes you can find them at times outside of the first 2 rounds, but it's a crapshoot. Below isn't the exact quote I was referencing but I believe it does support the positions I listed as premium. The article was from 2018 and so was my memory, so you may find it relevant or not but I believe it still holds true.

Link to aritcle here, surprised I found the quote that quickly. https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/5/11/17326722/nfl-free-agent-pass-rusher-position-salary



Edit: My bad Elvis, I'm just seeing that you weren't implying mid round selections you were implying an early 1st rounder as the only way. Apologies for perceiving that incorrectly. I agree w/ your assessment.

It’s all good. We HAVE to start drafting QBs. We won’t be a contender until we get a good young guy with a stable coaching staff to build around.

 

[St. Widge]

Widge is a Tree Lawyer. When you wreck into a tree he sues you.

A man's gotta make a living.

 

[St. Geezy]

Do I really need to dissect each individual statement by all 6 guys and state whether they are a "report", "statement", "speculation", "hearsay", "guess", "statement of alleged fact", etc.? Is that where we are at this point?

What Nick and Trip said were definitely "reports". They specifically said Carr does not want to be here and he would waive his no trade clause. You can choose to label the rest of the "media reports", "statements", "specualtion", etc. however you want. You can also refuse to believe Nick and Tripp which I suspect you will do.

Relax brother. Geesh.

 

[Chuck McGill Esq.]

IMO in NOLA I'd go with Juan's Flying Burrito. But, yeah, whatever is convenient in a pinch.

Always liked Juan's when I lived there.

 

[BlackNGoldblood]

Does anyone think that if Carr were a free agent now, the Steelers wouldn’t pay him $40 million a year to play there?

 

[Rexman100]

At this point I would think that he's stuck here for this season -- from the Saints perspective, they accelerated most of his salary into bonus money, and I can't see paying him close to $40M to go play for someone else this year. He would have to find a trade partner that both wants to throw the Saints some compensation and also allow the Saints to claw back some of the money they owe him for this year.

It is what it is, hopefully all parties make the best of it until what appears to be an inevitable parting next year.

Right, the only way to move on from Carr logically is via trade where the partner helps out with $.

 

[Booker]

It’s all good. We HAVE to start drafting QBs. We won’t be a contender until we get a good young guy with a stable coaching staff to build around.

I agree. We should draft a QB every year until we find one -- not necessarily in the first round, but somewhere in the draft.

 

[St. Widge]

Does anyone think that if Carr were a free agent now, the Steelers wouldn’t pay him $40 million a year to play there?

They probably would. But, they are in a different situation than we are in. They more or less have a complete team that gets into the playoffs every year and are just missing a QB that is better than Russell Wilson.

 

[Chuck McGill Esq.]

Does anyone think that if Carr were a free agent now, the Steelers wouldn’t pay him $40 million a year to play there?

I don't think they would. From my memory the Steelers don't really pay top dollar for players. Maybe my memory is off.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

Unfortunately, yes. I figured everyone would know by now given how argumentative, long winded, and out of touch with the rest of the world that I am.

I recognize a kindred spirit. My great grandmother would always ask me...."baby what do you do for work"? And I'd always respond, I'm in computers grandma. She'd follow that up w/ "when are you going to be a lawyer like you're people". She asked me that up until she passed at 103. About 3 years later I was talking Football w/ a guy studying for the Bar and he randomly said "you'd be a good lawyer".

I've contemplated it...but think I'm too old for law school at this point.

 

[BlackNGoldblood]

They probably would. But, they are in a different situation than we are in. They more or less have a complete team that gets into the playoffs every year and are just missing a QB that is better than Russell Wilson.

You misspelled Mason Rudolph

 

[BlackNGoldblood]

I don't think they would. From my memory the Steelers don't really pay top dollar for players. Maybe my memory is off.

New management in town now. Mike Florio said he’s followed the Steelers very closely since the beginning of the organization and the Metcalf deal was unlike anything they had ever done, meaning pay a player they were unfamiliar with that much money.

 

[Chuck McGill Esq.]

New management in town now. Mike Florio said he’s followed the Steelers very closely since the beginning of the organization and the Metcalf deal was unlike anything they had ever done, meaning pay a player they were unfamiliar with that much money.

Yeah that was definitely a divergence from the historical Steelers.